From: Bruce Cronin <b.cronin-AT-auckland.ac.nz> Subject: Re: Stop the madness! Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:11:35 +-1300 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB0A7C.234A1260 > From: rahul-AT-peaches.ph.utexas.edu (Rahul Mahajan) > Does freedom of speech mean we have to allow ourselves to be swamped by a rising tide of mediocre inanity? ... >how do you reason with a Stalinist? ... > I think the only measure that is at least formally short of censorship that might work is if all of us (who is the we I'm talking about here; that's part of the problem) agreed simply not to respond to THEM. Louis: >This gang of 4 or 5, whatever number they are, are hostile to this list and its purposes. As a long-time reader, but rare writer, on this list, I have found the responses such as these to the PCP material hilarious. It is as if the arrival of some reality (in the form of actual evidence about Peru rather than gossip, and contact with a party that is actually engaged in a revolution) has sent all the armchair revolutionaries into a panic with the cry "Our list is under attack". Well maybe its worth reflecting on the value of the list if it cannot handle reality. (What was that about the revolution not being made at the dinner tables of the bourgeoisie?). Rahul seems upset because discussion is centred on concerns other than those of the 12 listed who normally dominate this list. As one of the other 350 who feel they are part of the list, even if I don't comment very often, I actually have really appreciated getting some factual information about the situation in Peru, (as opposed to the usual media bullshit), and from exposure to the perspectives of a revolutionary party that actually appears to have considerable mass support and is going somewhere. 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