From: LeoCasey-AT-aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 23:03:29 -0500 Subject: Re: The NANAS It would appear that Curtis Price has some issues with democratic socialism, issues based at least in part on experiences, some time ago, with the New American Movement (NAM). He has chosen the venue of my comments on Noel Ignatiev's pro-militia editorial, with its references to Ignatiev's Sojourner Truth Organization (STO), including a passing mention of its intervention in NAM, to make them. Price seems to be disappointed that NAM turned away from the aspirations of some to be an American 'Il Manifesto', and that is his right, although one may question what meaning those aspirations have when 'Il Manifesto' itself was engaged in a similar major political self reformulation. But there are some amazing leaps of logic and groundless assertions which Price makes in the course of this process. Price begins: >There seems to me there is a striking convergence in method >on the list between the Shining Path adherents and the >'democratic socialists' on the militias. Both willfully distort, the >difference being that the Stalin lovers are confronted while a >deafening silence clouds the 'democratic socialists' when they >engage in the same dishonest misrepresentations of their >opponent's arguments to make their particular polemical points. The inference here is that my comments concerning Ignatiev and STO are somehow dishonest misrepresentations. But what exactly is the misrepresented? 1. First, we are told that "I have asked former NAM people locally about their recollections of Ignatiev/STO's interventions in NAM and yes, it appears STO acted disgracefully." Doesn't this statement go at least as far, if not not farther, than the account I gave? 2. Then, "But STO was the only organization in the seventies who promoted and distributed CLR James' works. It is in fact through STO that I first discovered James and the Facing Reality pamphlets and why I will always have a soft spot for STO." So who claimed that they didn't? Talk about non sequiteurs. And, parenthetically, Price is just mistaken here that STO was unique, based on his lack of knowledge about certain Trotskyist circles in Detroit, as well around the journal Radical America. 3. "Furthermore," he continues, "whatever the problems of 'the white skin priviledge' theory it was at least an attempt to address racism with-in the working class, an issue both in theory and practice the whole 'democratic socialist' mileau has made less than stellar contributions." The question I raised, of course, was how meaningful and successful an attempt at addressing racism it was -- a question which is hardly settled by arguing it was an attempt. I think it is a revealing insight that one of the main originators of this "white skin privilege" theory who, for decades, dismissed white workers as hopelessly racist now embraces the militias, and does so while openly admitting their white supremacist politics. 4. Finally, Price concludes, "You could look in vain through any 'democratic socialist' literature for even an acknowledgement of the existence of this problem (of racism among white workers), let alone a serious discussion of the issue." Without defending for a moment the failures of American democratic socialism in this regard, it should be noted that in direct contradiction for Price's claim, DSA has published for close to a decade a pamphlet by Cornel West on theories of racism which speaks openly and explicitly of the failures of the American trade union movement and democratic socialist tradition in addressing problems of racism. (There are other pieces of literature, but this is the most widely known and sold.) Is it necessary to point out that in this entire chain of assertions, some of which are themselves mistaken and false, Price offers not one piece of evidence to support his inference that I dishonestly misrepresented the politics of Ignatiev and the STO? Price then moves on to "question how 'democratic' the 'democratic socialist' mileau is in practice," offering two anecdotes. 1."When I was a member of NAM, there was some local ward nomination of a 'progressive' delegate to the DP convention. NAM organized a contingent to go to this meeting and sign up for membership on the spot, realizing quite accurately that the local infrastructure of the DP was a complete hollow shell and it was ripe for this type of 'intervention'. Now the 64 million dollar question. How does this differ from some Leninist 'sect' packing a meeting to shift the meeting around to it's own interests?" What exactly were they supposed to do? This is a long discussion, but the way in which the question is posed seems to rule out any possibility for political intervention. 2. "Second anecdote. People from NAM who merged starry-eyed into DSOC to form DSA now tell me what a disillusioning experience this was for them. Because DSA did not allow any of the former NAM people into any significant leadership. NAM was evidentally cynically supposed to provide the fodder for an activist base of what was a paper-organization (DSOC) while the old-guard DSOC types controlled the organization. Allegedly within a couple of years most of the leading NAM people exited DSA..What distressing naivete about the nature of social democracy and it's historical role! NAM wanted to be the equivilent of an American "Il Manifesto" and instead they ended up being bubblegum on Michael Harrington's shoes." This is just plain silliness. I can speak here on a first person basis, since I was one of the leaders of NAM who supported the merger, and was one of the two NAM based full time political directors of DSA (DSOC also had two), in the period after the merger. I can also speak pretty authoritatively on behalf of the other ex-NAM leaders, with whom I was in close contact and many of whom remain good friends to this day. We were never closed out of the national leadership of DSA; indeed, we polled the most votes in the first election of the merged organization for the national leadership, and were the dominant political force. What actually happened was a political process in which, over a period of time, the ex-NAM leaders came to similar conclusions concerning the usefulness and efficacy of a democratic socialist organization which saw itself as a direct player in American politics during the 1980s, and moved on, one by one, to other political pursuits. Today, most of us are inactive members of DSA, and do our political work in other, mass arenas. The suggestion that we were somehow 'turfed' out is just off base. I do think about the experiences of NAM and the merger into DSA on occasion, and I find in them some interesting lessons about the form the next American left might take. But a meaningful discussion of those experiences has to start from some basic and correct information. Leo --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- ------------------
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