Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:09:43 GMT From: Steve Wallis <S.Wallis-AT-mmu.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Conservatives win Australian election "Marcus Strom" <MSTROM-AT-nswtf.org.au> wrote: > I find Steve's response somewhat puzzling. Marcus seems to have misunderstood me somewhat, perhaps due to me being brief. I'll start with what we agree on. We agree that there is a need for a mass revolutionary party capable of leading a successful socialist revolution. [I'm sure we also mostly agree on what would happen after a socialist revolution too.] We agree that some sort of socialist federation (which may be called an "alliance" or "party") would be "a step forward" in the current objective situation. We also agree that it would need the active involvement of revolutionary socialists (Marcus prefers to use the term "communists") for such a federation to succeed. In Marcus' opinion, there isn't much prospect of building such a federation at the present time. He may well be right - I asked this question in order to try to find out if this is the case - but perhaps the situation will improve fairly soon. Militant Labour and the CWI are not as dogmatic as Marcus implies. There are different objective situations in different countries, and a tactic that is correct in one may not necessarily be correct in another. Whereas building socialist alliances is feasible in Britain at the present time, it may not be in Australia. Similar arguments can be used about the name of an organisation - different terms are understood in different ways by the masses in different countries. This certainly applies to the term "communist" which in Britain is synonymous with the Stalinist dictatorships that have disintegrated in the former USSR and Eastern Europe. The situation in Italy is rather different due to the history of the Communist Party there. I do not claim to be an expert on Italy or Australia (or Britain for that matter), but I suspect that the term "communist" is understood by the mass of the working class in much the same way in Australia as in Britain. It is clearly ridiculous to dogmatically insist on using the term "communist" in any country at any time - even if doing so erects a massive hurdle in the way of building the mass revolutionary party needed for a successful socialist revolution. This seems to be what Marcus is suggesting, but maybe I am misinterpreting him... Finally, to clear up some other misunderstandings: I am not saying that the defeat of a social democratic government "overseeing the disintegration of post war keynesism and welfare state...creates the best space for working class fightback". What I am saying is that there will be a favourable objective situation in many countries in the coming period, and that the defeat of such a government is not a calamity for the working class. As Gary McL (and Marcus) pointed out, the shift to the right of the social democratic parties has created a big vacuum - the challenge for Marxists is to fill the vacuum rather than allowing racists and fascists to. Marcus' suggestion that Militant Labour/the CWI are social democrats is just plain silly. It is quite amusing the way some people dredge up statements from several years ago (in the days of entrism within the British Labour Party, and admittedly phrased rather badly) in order to try to prove what they would surely know to be false if they had any real knowledge of Militant Labour. Steve. -- **** stop the execution of Mumia Abu-Jamal **** **** if you agree copy these 3 sentences in your own sig **** **** more info: http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm **** /----------+ Centre for Policy Modelling, Email: S.Wallis-AT-mmu.ac.uk \/\ Steve | Manchester Metropolitan University, Tel: (+44) 161 247 3884 \ / Wallis | Aytoun Building, Aytoun St., Fax: (+44) 161 247 6802 \/\/---------+ Manchester M1 3GH, UK. http://www.fmb.mmu.ac.uk/~stevew --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- ------------------
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