Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 11:56:50 -0700
From: Lisa Rogers <eqwq.lrogers-AT-state.ut.us>
Subject:  psychoanalysis thread 


This happens to be among my recent interests, as I have discovered a
liberatory aspect to some movement within psychoanalysis.  
It relates to marxian thought and projects because it is about the
way in which the concrete specificities around one shape the
formation of one's subjectivity/personality/basic assumptions about
gender roles, for instance, during development.  

It is a way to examine the reproduction of ideology on a deep level,
that does not necessarily refer to overt propaganda.  It is much more
effective than propaganda when things are built into one's thinking
by early childhood experience and such.

It is liberatory [at least in intent] because it is about trying to
free one's thoughts, to free one from internalized tyrrany, to better
understand the forces that make us in order to better fight them, to
make ideas and plans for how to raise children differently, to
understand the effects of 'environment' upon people.

But, gotta get back to work, so let me toss the ball to another.

Carrol, what exactly do you think that the basic premises of PA are,
and what is false and vicious about them?  Don't just watch the
argument, you got me curious now, so _make_ an argument!  OK, not "to
defend it in detail", but give us a start, if you can.

yours in debate,
Lisa

>>> Carrol Cox <cbcox-AT-rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>  3/5/96, 11:35am >>>
My own view, but I'm not prepared to defend it in detail, is that
pscyhoanalysis is false and vicious in all its forms and both in its
basic premises and all its particular arguments, from Freud to
whoever is the most reasonable analyst now working or writing. I'd be
interested in seeing arguments either attacking or supporting this
position.





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