Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 13:08:18 -0800 From: djones-AT-uclink.berkeley.edu (rakesh bhandari) Subject: Re: Bombings, Surveillance, and Free Societies (fwd) > There should be >tremendous potential appeal for a truly radical message among the >population that people recklessly refer to as "The Militias." If there >isn't, then we might as well give up on radical politics in America. Doug, I just don't see how this follows. It may be that people who have made the choice to join the Militias are the least interested, perhaps most hostile to radical politics, though they are of course militants (the same could be said of the hard-core members of the *Nation of Islam*). Who is throwing in the towel about the American working class? Is the Militia the working class? What does most of the working class think of them? There have been two strikes in my neighborhood, one of grocery workers and the other of school-teachers. I haven't met any striker who seems sympathetic to the Militias, and it is probable that at a certain point these workers will be willing to engage in very radical action, depsite the fact that many of them are religious. By the way, the churches have played a terribly reactionary role in the teachers' strike, accusing the union of being white and unfairly protesting the black administration of Oakland. Again Adolph Reed is proven correct over Cornel West. Both Sally and you have insinuated that the Militia critics are middle-class high brows. This is unfair: one could as easily say that you are simply dismissing the working class which is as profoundly oppressed as it is alienated from and distrustworthy of organizations such as the Militias. For all of us who read Nietzsche with delight in our youth and been woken up by a Jehovah's Witness on a Saturday morning, it must be nice to see a group which has finally risen from the dead of pacifist Christianity and is now willing to take action. But I am really suggesting that we should not be so excited about any and all groups that come along. Sally raised the very interesting question of the involvement of veterans in the Militia and the effects civilian contempt has had on them. I think that this is all very complicated. I certainly don't look down upon people who have been subject to our system of class conscription; Paul Mattick once wrote that the army offers people the social respect denied to them as proletarians. However, war does horrendous things to veterans, and it is well-recognized, I believe, that *some* declasse officers and soldiers have been important parts of fascist movements. Anyways, does anyone have any thoughts on how the veterans returning from the virtual war in the Gulf are different from those who returned from the jungles of Indochina years ago? Except for the fact that they are being released into a much more depressed economy. > But that isn't the whole story. Much of >their ideology is profoundly anti-statist and anti-fascist - >libertarian/individualist in the classic American mode, raised to a wild >extreme. Confronting the profoundly individualistic nature of much American >thought is a major problem for the non-populist left. I understand that in a future *Progressive* Adolph Reed writes of how Herrenvolk democracy is coded in this seemingly neutral classic American mode. At the same time, I am very open to rethinking the principles which animate radical thought; I have expressed in one effort at rethinking Marxism: Jacques Camatte's *This World We Must Leave and other essays*. But, yes, as usual, I think you have pointed to a very important topic--the implications of the tradition of American individualism for radical thought. --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- ------------------
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