File spoon-archives/marxism.archive/marxism_1996/96-03-marxism/96-03-08.000, message 494


From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F8rn_Andersen?= <ccc6639-AT-vip.cybercity.dk>
Subject: New Zealand - Info wanted
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 12:21:02 +-100



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Bill Cochrane wrote:

>steming of the seemingly endless flow of smug ACTU officals comming to New
>Zealand to tell us how wonderful workplace reform and the accord are. Our
>own peak labour organisation, the NZCTU, mounted no opposition to 12 years
>of neoliberal reforms,under both Labour and conservative governments, and I

Please, Bill, could you give us an outline to what these reforms were/are?

The reason why I'm asking is that in yesterday's TV News I saw,
that two Danish ministers (a Social Democrat and a minister from
one of the "center parties") had been in New Zealand to learn.

The TV News had a longer report saying among other things that
the NZ Labour government had succeeded in smashing trade union
control over wage negotiations, that TU membership has fallen about
30%, that a substantial part of public sector workers have been
sacked etc.

A Danish "consul" (ambassador of a sort) in NZ said that now strikes is
a thing of the past.

They also told us that unemployment has fallen to about 6% - but also
that up to 20% of those now employed were so low paid, that they were
below the "poverty line" and that thousands of people have to rely on
private social work (churches etc.).

All this looks very bad indeed - although the TV News presented it as a
"success story", they could not avoid telling us, that these reforms
also meant that poverty was now a reality of life for a rising number of people.

The Danish Social Democratic coalition government hasn't gone this far
- yet. But they have made serious restrictions to conditions for getting
unemployment benefits - especially for young workers. As they have made
a lot of other austerity politics, that 10 years of bourgeois governments
never dared to do. At the moment there is a big debate in the Danish
SocDem-party about how to "modernize" the welfare state, i.e. more
cuts.

What I suspect is, that these two (very high ranking) Danish ministers
didn't go to New Zealand just for the better weather. There was a longer
interview with one of the ministers on TV - but he said nothing.

There *is* opposition to the debate on "modernizing the welfare state"
inside the Danish SocDem Party, but it's very weak, and as they accept
the market as *the* mantra of economics, they can't provide any alternative
politics and thus tend to bend in to the liberals inside the SocDem Party.

So please, I could use some facts, experiences etc.

Thanks in advance

Yours

Jorn Andersen
ccc6639-AT-vip.cybercity.dk

IS
Denmark

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