From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F8rn_Andersen?= <ccc6639-AT-vip.cybercity.dk> Subject: New Zealand - Info wanted Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 12:21:02 +-100 ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB0C20.CC46CF20 Bill Cochrane wrote: >steming of the seemingly endless flow of smug ACTU officals comming to New >Zealand to tell us how wonderful workplace reform and the accord are. Our >own peak labour organisation, the NZCTU, mounted no opposition to 12 years >of neoliberal reforms,under both Labour and conservative governments, and I Please, Bill, could you give us an outline to what these reforms were/are? The reason why I'm asking is that in yesterday's TV News I saw, that two Danish ministers (a Social Democrat and a minister from one of the "center parties") had been in New Zealand to learn. The TV News had a longer report saying among other things that the NZ Labour government had succeeded in smashing trade union control over wage negotiations, that TU membership has fallen about 30%, that a substantial part of public sector workers have been sacked etc. A Danish "consul" (ambassador of a sort) in NZ said that now strikes is a thing of the past. They also told us that unemployment has fallen to about 6% - but also that up to 20% of those now employed were so low paid, that they were below the "poverty line" and that thousands of people have to rely on private social work (churches etc.). All this looks very bad indeed - although the TV News presented it as a "success story", they could not avoid telling us, that these reforms also meant that poverty was now a reality of life for a rising number of people. The Danish Social Democratic coalition government hasn't gone this far - yet. But they have made serious restrictions to conditions for getting unemployment benefits - especially for young workers. As they have made a lot of other austerity politics, that 10 years of bourgeois governments never dared to do. At the moment there is a big debate in the Danish SocDem-party about how to "modernize" the welfare state, i.e. more cuts. What I suspect is, that these two (very high ranking) Danish ministers didn't go to New Zealand just for the better weather. There was a longer interview with one of the ministers on TV - but he said nothing. There *is* opposition to the debate on "modernizing the welfare state" inside the Danish SocDem Party, but it's very weak, and as they accept the market as *the* mantra of economics, they can't provide any alternative politics and thus tend to bend in to the liberals inside the SocDem Party. So please, I could use some facts, experiences etc. Thanks in advance Yours Jorn Andersen ccc6639-AT-vip.cybercity.dk IS Denmark ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB0C20.CC46CF20 eJ8+IjALAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAENgAQAAgAAAAIAAgABBJAG APACAAACAAAADAAAAAMAADAIAAAACwAPDgAAAAACAf8PAQAAAGsAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDd AQ9UAgAAAABtYXJ4aXNtQGplZmZlcnNvbi52aWxsYWdlLlZpcmdpbmlhLkVEVQBTTVRQAG1hcnhp c21AamVmZmVyc29uLnZpbGxhZ2UuVmlyZ2luaWEuRURVAAAeAAIwAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4A AzABAAAAJwAAAG1hcnhpc21AamVmZmVyc29uLnZpbGxhZ2UuVmlyZ2luaWEuRURVAAADABUMAQAA AAMA/g8GAAAAHgABMAEAAAApAAAAJ21hcnhpc21AamVmZmVyc29uLnZpbGxhZ2UuVmlyZ2luaWEu RURVJwAAAAACAQswAQAAACwAAABTTVRQOk1BUlhJU01ASkVGRkVSU09OLlZJTExBR0UuVklSR0lO SUEuRURVAAMAADkAAAAACwBAOgEAAAACAfYPAQAAAAQAAAAAAAAIDQAAAAMAADAJAAAACwAPDgEA AAACAf8PAQAAAEkAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDdAQ9UAgAAAQB3cmMxOTYxQG1pZGxhbmQuY28u bnoAU01UUAB3cmMxOTYxQG1pZGxhbmQuY28ubnoAAAAAHgACMAEAAAAFAAAAU01UUAAAAAAeAAMw AQAAABYAAAB3cmMxOTYxQG1pZGxhbmQuY28ubnoAAAADABUMAgAAAAMA/g8GAAAAHgABMAEAAAAY AAAAJ3dyYzE5NjFAbWlkbGFuZC5jby5ueicAAgELMAEAAAAbAAAAU01UUDpXUkMxOTYxQE1JRExB TkQuQ08uTloAAAMAADkAAAAACwBAOgAAAAACAfYPAQAAAAQAAAAAAAAJAgH5DwEAAABJAAAAAAAA AIErH6S+oxAZnW4A3QEPVAIAAAEAd3JjMTk2MUBtaWRsYW5kLmNvLm56AFNNVFAAd3JjMTk2MUBt aWRsYW5kLmNvLm56AAAAAGeeAQiABwAYAAAASVBNLk1pY3Jvc29mdCBNYWlsLk5vdGUAMQgBBIAB ABoAAABOZXcgWmVhbGFuZCAtIEluZm8gd2FudGVkAKUIAQWAAwAOAAAAzAcDAAcADAAVAAIABAAE AQEggAMADgAAAMwHAwAHAAwAFQACAAQABAEBCYABACEAAAAxREU1NkIxMjlGNzdDRjExODUwRjQ0 NDU1MzU0MDAwMADnBgEDkAYAAAkAABIAAAALACMAAAAAAAMAJgAAAAAACwApAAAAAAADADYAAAAA AEAAOQCgXCkrGAy7AR4AcAABAAAAGgAAAE5ldyBaZWFsYW5kIC0gSW5mbyB3YW50ZWQAAAACAXEA AQAAABYAAAABuwwYKqMSa+Uhd58Rz4UPREVTVAAAAAAeAB4MAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AHwwB AAAAGQAAAGNjYzY2MzlAdmlwLmN5YmVyY2l0eS5kawAAAAADAAYQtA558QMABxDoBwAAHgAIEAEA AABlAAAAQklMTENPQ0hSQU5FV1JPVEU6U1RFTUlOR09GVEhFU0VFTUlOR0xZRU5ETEVTU0ZMT1dP RlNNVUdBQ1RVT0ZGSUNBTFNDT01NSU5HVE9ORVdaRUFMQU5EVE9URUxMVVNIT1dXTwAAAAACAQkQ AQAAAH0HAAB5BwAADQ0AAExaRnXTtJTm/wAKAQ8CFQKoBesCgwBQAvIJAgBjaArAc2V0MjcGAAbD AoMyA8UCAHByQnER4nN0ZW0CgzN3AuQHEwKAfQqACM8J2TvxFg8yNTUCgAqBDbELYOBuZzEwMw3w CwoUUeUL8mMAQCBCAxADIAhQxRFwcgBwZSB3A2AT0MI6CotsaTM2GWEZ7rsKoBviYwVACocZ7z4f fQcehhPCC4BnIG9mIBx0aBuwEbAiQ2x5ILkJ8GRsB5AEIBjgbwfgESKhc211IoBBQ1TiVSKRZmlj B0AEIAWg8m0iU3RvB7IfDyAfIS7sWmUHQABwZCZSE9AbEWp1BCBoJFF3AiAEgWamdQMgK1ByawtR Yxuw4xYQAhBybSAqIyLhANCHBaEqQArAZS4gTwhwXybPJ98hLiRQA6BwKfBrniALYAbgCHAikHJn AHBRBABhdGkCICwiw05uWiURM1AEYHUCMAmAIMJuJnBvcHBvAJAzEvUmUjER4Hkp8BGgLn8vj88w nyKwG6AG8GliBJAHQNkshXMsNEAEgSAG4CLQfCBMMjQqIgWgAIAEkHblMwF2G7BnbzywBKAHgHcC MDqQLPNJCo8aHD4FUP0j4GERsDNQGvIzUAWgK8D9KkB5CGA80DyiKuEDkQhg7nQdABuhJmF3EYAF QCLRTxGwOiYbwASQZS8t8T/7PgU+BVQi4RYQQJA1UUNAySOQSScs4XNrImIEAD8iwUNhC4A10RPB CyBhebInBCBUVgeyBCBJIhBYYXcsPgVHs3QrUCB+RDLCO0AiUQQASGEEICj+YQYAG1AHMUrAE+Ab UBuA/wVAKiJL8EtGJCADYT4FAiD7G7AipSIsYDRRBcA+MTMQ6QeQIikrAGEqQDnQCfDfR/IHwinp QHEEoC5FD0jn/1CCS/AVoBkQOuEWEDTwACD1SYF5ImJhBGAiciLRSiJ/ImFHlEnXM5I7VjzoUHNz /nUtkAngDbAqQEgBJLBAkP9WsiLAG4ANsCrQAwACID4FvzwRWvAG8CKQPQEbwGFUwP85cTzgMxAz Az2BR7MlIQeA9wbQS6FWsHBQcSQRB0Aj4O8DoDIyV0YZUCVd9UvwWZB+YhPAAHBdcQMgT+IiknD7 YYAdAGMjAR7QBbEr8kui3xGAPLFQwj4FMvBjY8AqQPURwGNSjUFKxk9gPCErwN4iS9EG0ECQMvBk BbEiob9hURWxUGBRElgQMvBpLSL/Q2E0oAfgE8AFEGPABCAEAH8+BUvwVqMilj4wE8BSj2X/I5Al oSpxBvAqQCrhR7M0QPsT4AtQbwbAWRRfZyZhX/PgIDYlIC07AHDxbfL9Sdp1XyAmYQHQcTAiozUA /10RJFFvNDRxRHJowVSBB+D/PjBpsF31ItEjkERyPgU50O8kQk8jNPA9AXQjkELCZ6D/LQRDYwhg MvAjwAQgYoI5kP8LUBuwZBMmYRYQI4FbhxNQ/zygMwB04kwzK/JL0BFwCHD3EXAHkWWCKWW+GxFW oQQg+RWgb2sEID0BI5Bn8FoS3w2wNHFxUAdAeUJnO0Ai0v9I9hNQQ7E0UzUgRwEs8D4FniJZkwQR E8AFsHkiM1PPI5BBRDSgTPF2b2myKqH/ImIq4HW4Q8hrFm4CB4Bhwf9HpHfWXOAEIGoyS/BGIR0A 93ghIqEdAGYbsCyxioIEAPkiYm51XrJ52Gy/G7BK1T9MHWLxBaCK0jVCWKtzbv4nBUA84ELif1Jf gC5mcVD/NeBsoBrgcPF2I2QTAMBbIf88QTMgKuGCcWqBHtBdsiZS/TwRZDUjJBEFsVTAAkAiYf8+ BW8bOdAboCVwPXBxQQeQ/zHQTDIjgYuyQaEicWOVLiB+QUeSlBprFxWgOTNWRGHfKuBIYYryNPCQ cmNd5hkw/zXUIpIyQlTAhgAEIDzpPgX/G6BcokiQFhEmUmhAm3FDcz80EVkDVlIbsEeBS/Biaf8i gA2wZ/B8MUgBItJK1D4F+0wRTIEtT+Jt0XDTKxImYXIiBGRpeniBItJEcGyfkqEi8QGQE9AzUGku LhG7BGB2l2NCoJtgjZxXhxK/SXEq4JnRR+GG3EqSKH/z/1awgXEbgUcyUGBK3j4FlpDuZJHEJlUp 12qeEYujItL/OdACQFyyKfBWUi4gReF00d+KElR2PgULgEhhdgiQKzH/NSA7QE65S0g1UUjxcVQi 4l9pooWhVrKNj3TCKgQAKn80zSLSpRU1UahnJiOpPiL/tdcAkFshpbimtUBQp0IzUN9xcjUgSMF/ 87Qhaz2UX1F/diMtgVUQV0oAwGOxgxMq/yLRu7ADgVrxIpIFkTSgIlD/nwSFEgBwkdEegbaQWyEA cPtt0khhbjyDe3aetSz1bpL/I7EmUpkBWhO8hTm1atHACP/BGro9TBAxwEB1SXBBRCrgn3TiB4Bf cR7QPYFleDHQ/QiBboQhZX9Fwq9hzOIs8O5kPHDSAbpMWQhhNiY+BfZKBbADoEErcoKRW6YtkCA2 NjM5QLaQcC6cY3k50UwwzlFka7pM/ElTPgVMgD0wxRE2PyFbCz4FFTEA3cAAAAADABAQAAAAAAMA ERAAAAAAQAAHMEAvLZISDLsBQAAIMIAlOisYDLsBHgA9AAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAJgR ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB0C20.CC46CF20-- --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- ------------------
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