Date: 01 Mar 96 22:13:20 EST From: Jon Flanders <72763.2240-AT-compuserve.com> Subject: buchanan, labor party >> I don't think a labor party can be successfully organized without the participation of major elements of the elected officials, and they won't do it until they're forced to. I think it's clear that right now they don't feel much pressure to do it. What seems to be happening is that some progressive and radical groups within the labor movement have gotten impatient and want to launch a labor party now. But if they do, it will most likely fizzle. There's just not enough political ferment to make it work. <<Jim Miller How do you get a majority of the labor officials? You have to start somewhere. I was living and working in Burlington when Bernie Sanders first ran for mayor. Now please, no lectures on liberalism, I know what his evolution has been. I also know that what he did at the time took a lot of chutzpah. There is a lot to learn from what he did. He had one group of "labor" supporters, the Burlington police union. Pretty questionable from a marxist standpoint, but you have to remember this is small city politics. The point is that he ran against the Democratic machine and the Republicans without major union support. He won, and since then has become a favorite at every union function and rally in the state. The majority of the officials support him now. What you have to look at is the dynamics of the situation, how the ball gets rolling. I saw it closeup then, and haven't forgotten it. After he won CISPES meetings took place in City Hall, and the rally for the PATCO strikers took place in the city council chambers. Maybe some of our British comrades can comment on their history. I will go back and take a look at it myself. The point being that to my knowledge, there was a number of years in which a battle went on between the majority of the labor organizations and a minority led by socialists over participating in the Liberal party and breaking away to form the Labour Party. Then there is the question of the ILP and so on. What Jim says is true, its a judgement call. I think it is worth taking a shot at and that the conditions are relatively favorable. I am still left confused by the rhetoric in the Militant about Buchanan, fascism and war. Best, Jon Flanders E-mail from: Jonathan E. Flanders, 01-Mar-1996 --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- ------------------
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