Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 19:19:54 -0800
From: iwp.ilo-AT-ix.netcom.com (CEP )
Subject: Re: Personality Crisis


You(Louis Proyect) wrote: 
>
>One of the things I have learned over the years is how easy it is to 
be 
>wrong. To be a successful Marxist, you must allow for the possibility 
>that your initial perceptions are based on prejudice. New evidence and
>new perspectives must always come into play. Doubt, hesitation, 
>uncertainty are natural characteristics of a probing mind. That is the
>only way deeper insight may be achieved.

    Carlos:
    I think, dear friend, you are talking to yourself here.  When you
    challenged me to discuss the FSLN and FMLN politics and I accepted
    you had no any other way out of the discussion than exiting with
    a plently of what you described above.

An Louis continued:

>One of the things I find depressing about the ultra-dogmatic party 
>members is that they never budge on a question. A particular 
>revolution either vindicates their socialist principles entirely or 
>demonstrates how rotten things can turn out when their advice is 
>unheeded. The truth for them is always black-and-white.

    Carlos:

    Again, Louis, you refused to argued about themes you supported and  
    did in a very dogmatic way.  Your answer to Hugh about the LIT(CI)
    and the fighters of the International Simon Bolivar and your answer
    to my positions on the FSLN and the FMLN that *you invited me* to
    discuss are sufficient prove that the above-comment applies to you.


Moreover, Louis added:
>
>I have enjoyed my discussions on this list to the highest degree with 
>people who are not party members. Even when we have sharp 
>disagreements, there is evidence that the other person is at least 
wrestling 
>with my ideas.

    Carlos:

    Dear friend, and I tell you as a friend not a foe, you risk nothing
    and gave nothing by not discussing with people who are organized.
    Whatever organization they are in, they at least still have hopes,
    others are cynic.  And I will remember that *you are* a             
    self-proclaimed member of the CofC and has defended *your*          
    organization a number of times.  So, please, stop this bullshit
    about others who belong to any group.  Argue with them politically
    if you wish.  If not, just stay quiet.

    Louis added;

>I find it truly sad that the party members on this list can not enjoy 
this 
>experience. It is a pleasure that is only afforded to those who can 
say 
>that they are imperfect.
>
    Carlos:

    I, and I know for a fact other party members, enjoy these           
    discussions very much.  You, and some other fake "independents"
    are those who get angry, and are impatient .....  So, please,
    stop bullshitting us and yourself.

    Comradely,
    Carlos



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