Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 13:15:52 +0100 (MET)
From: Jan Willems <hiworld-AT-dds.nl>
Subject: Antifascist Alert: vote no on rec.music.white-power


Hello, I got this message, thought it might interest you.

I suggest you all vote no.
Greetings,
Jan;-)

From: Luciano Dondero <DOND001-AT-IT.net>
Dear comrade(s),

Very nice Web pages, I will come back to take a better look.

This is quick because I just wanted to let you know (if you don't already)
that the fascists are trying to get a newsgroup called
"rec.music.white-power", and that you and anybody else with an e-mail
address are entitled to vote.

The Call for Votes (the official text that says how to vote and where) is
enclosed below.

Fraternally,

Luciano Dondero

enclosed:


                      LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) 
               unmoderated group rec.music.white-power 
 
Newsgroups line: 
rec.music.white-power	Lyrics, albums, performers, enjoyment of the genre. 
 
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 18 Mar 1996. 
 
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Please address any 
questions about the proposal to the proponent. 
 
Proponent: Milton John Kleim, Jr <bb748-AT-FreeNet.Carleton.CA> 
Votetaker: Michael Handler <handler-AT-sub-rosa.com> 
 
RATIONALE: rec.music.white-power 
 
There is no appropriate newsgroup for discussion of White Power music, a 
phenomenon which is international in scope.  Persons who have an interest 
in this genre of music have no appropriate venue on USENET in which to 
discuss this controversial topic.  Other rec.music groups' topics are too 
dissimilar, and many of their participants are in no way receptive of 
posts about this heated topic.  Some discussion of White Power music 
occurs on alt.skinheads and alt.politics.white-power, but is inappropriate 
there due to the former's mostly lifestyle-oriented matters, and the 
latter's largely political nature.  Rec.music.white-power will prevent the 
"intrusion" of fans into other, more vaguely-defined, newsgroups, where 
they will not be welcomed.  Discussions would necessarily be free and 
open, due to the topic's controversial nature.  This group should be 
unmoderated because a moderator could exercise undue control over one 
viewpoint's postings. 
 
CHARTER: rec.music.white-power 
 
All issues relating to the genre known as White Power music, since it's 
inception until the present, covering all languages and nationalities of 
performers, and all themes of pieces. 
 
Rec.music.white-power is an unmoderated newsgroup for the entertaining 
and enlightening discussion of revolutionary new forms of rock, country, 
and other sub-genres having racist/nationalist themes.  Both supporters 
and opponents will find the group educational and intriguing. 
 
Potential topics will relate to the origin, development, and 
dissemination of White Power music; to the artistic composition and 
performance of the music; and to the personal opinions and perceptions of 
those who enjoy particular bands and performers, and pieces. 
 
END CHARTER. 
 
HOW TO VOTE: 
 
Send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to: 
 
    music-vote-AT-sub-rosa.com 
 
Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. 
Check the address before you mail your vote.  Your mail message 
should contain one and only one of the following vote statements: 
 
    I vote YES on rec.music.white-power 
    I vote NO on rec.music.white-power 
 
You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL but these are not counted as valid 
votes for the total count. 
 
If your mail software does not indicate your real name, please also 
include the following statement and add your name (on the same line). 
 
    Voter name: 
 
IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: 
 
Standard Guidelines for voting apply.  One person, one vote.  Votes 
must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.  Anonymous, 
forwarded or proxy votes are not valid.  Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI 
forms are considered to be anonymous votes. 
 
Vote counting is automated.  Failure to follow these directions may 
mean that your vote does not get counted.  If you do not receive an 
acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker 
about the problem.  It's your responsibility to make sure your vote 
is registered correctly.  Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of 
the most recent valid vote.  Addresses and votes of all voters will 
be published in the final voting results post. 
 
The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of 
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup.  Soliciting votes from 
disinterested parties defeats this purpose.  Please do not distribute 
this CFV.  If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted 
to news.announce.newgroups.  Distributing pre-marked or otherwise 
edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. 
When in doubt, ask the votetaker. 
 
OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV: 
 
* The copy which was posted to news.announce.newgroups 
* Any copies which were sent to mailing lists *by* *the* *votetaker* 
* A copy received from the votetaker's automated mailserver 
 
To obtain a copy of the CFV from the votetaker's mailserver, send a blank 
email message to <music-cfv-AT-sub-rosa.com>. 
 
DISTRIBUTION: 
 
This Call For Votes (CFV) will be also be sent to the following mailing 
lists: 
 
* Stormfront Mailing List <stormfront-l-AT-stormfront.org> 
* Resistlist <rahowa-AT-resistance.com> 



--Luciano Dondero--
--vote no to "r.m.w.p."--



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