File spoon-archives/marxism.archive/marxism_1996/96-03-marxism/96-03-19.091, message 171


Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:28:41 GMT
To: marxism-AT-jefferson.village.virginia.edu
From: hariette-AT-easynet.co.uk (hariette spierings)
Subject: Re: Communicating etiquette and Marxism  (correction)


Correction in number of deaths from natural causes.

Adolfo


>A cursory glance of the membership of the Central Committee of the 
>RSDLP (b) at the time of the October Revolution proves this. 
>(Parentheses at the end of each passage denotes year of death.)
>
>Artyom, died (1921); 
>Berzin, disappeared during Moscow Trials (1938); 
>Bubnov, disappeared during Moscow Trials (1940); 
>Bukharin, shot after conviction in Moscow Trials (1938); 
>Dzerzhinsky, died (1926); 
>Joffe, committed suicide under pressure from Stalin (1927); 
>Kamenev, shot after conviction in Moscow Trials (1936); 
>Kollontai, dissapeared during Moscow Trials (1941); 
>Krestinsky, shot after conviction in Moscow Trials (1938); 
>Lenin, died (1924); 
>Lomov, disappeared during Moscow Trials (1938); 
>Milyutin, disappeared during Moscow Trials (1938); 
>Muranov, imprisoned during Moscow Trials (1959); 
>Nogin, died (1924); 
>Rykov, shot after conviction in Moscow Trials (1938); 
>Shahumyan, died (1918); 
>Smilga, shot after conviction in Moscow Trials (1938); 
>Sokolnikov, died in prison following Moscow Trials (1939); 
>Stalin, died (1953); 
>Stasova, imprisoned during Moscow Trials (1966); 
>Sverdlov, died (1919); 
>Trotsky, assassinated by GPU (1940); 
>Uritsky, died (1918); 
>Zinoviev, shot after conviction in Moscow Trials (1936)

And I answered in this way:


What is the key here? The key is the words "cursory glance".  That is all
the Trot wants you to do, take a cursory glance.  Why?  Because a serious
glance reveals their trickery.  Take it now, comrade, and tell me what you
see in that list AFTER CAREFUL STUDY?

Take it apart and analyse it. Out of 24 people in the Central Committee of
October:

How many were shot after conviction as enemies of the people? = 6

How many were imprisoned and RELEASED?                        = 2 


How many "dissappeared"?                                     =  5

T

How many died in prison:                                      = 1

How many committed suicide:                                   = 1  


How many died a natural death?  (Including Lenin)             = 8  (CORRECTION)

However Stalin is also blamed for nature's course, 
and if you ONLY take "a cursory glance" you can 
easily overlook this fact.

How many DESERTED THE REVOLUTION and went to 
work FOR THE OVERTHROW of proletarian power out of pique?     = 1  


Regards 


Adolfo 
    



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