File spoon-archives/marxism.archive/marxism_1996/96-03-marxism/96-03-30.072, message 307


Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:18:38 -0700
From: Lisa Rogers <eqwq.lrogers-AT-state.ut.us>
To: marxism-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
Subject:  Announcing marxism2 list


Hugh wrote:
Think about it. People have made it quite plain that they've been
*provoked* into unsubscribing. The reaction is natural enough, but I
think quitting is not the way to deal with the problem - it'll turn
up anyway next time round, *even in a moderated forum*, unless the
terms of moderation are so restrictive no-one'll bother to
participate.

We've got to meet the provocation, as a victory for provocation here
would encourage this strategy elsewhere. The best way to defeat the
provocation is to hold our own course, discussing what we want the
way we want to.
***

Lisa replies:
Hugh, this "just ignor'em" strategy has already proven bankrupt, as
far as I'm concerned. 

Also, I thoroughly reject the either/or claim that a list must be
"totally open" or else so boring nobody will want to be there.

BULL

I have been assured by people I respect, with a longer and wider
cyber-track than I, that this hijacking of lists is indeed a
ubiquitous problem of "OPEN" lists.  That is why more and more lists
are instituting some method of SELF-DEFENSE.

So, come on all you "fake leftists" who want "reasonable
conversations", come on you worker-intellectuals and
activist-professors, come on with me, if you would like to colonize a
new place for old conversations, and subscribe to the marxism2 list.

Seeya soon.

Anybody interested in being "moderator" or "spoon-liaison" for this
list?  I'll stick around for a while, but I'm not going to stay on
both lists for long.

Somebody needs to write up an info sheet for this list, the old one
is irrelevant to its present realization.

Lisa



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