From: glevy-AT-acnet.pratt.edu
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:42:26 -0500 (EST)
To: marxism-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
Cc: marxism-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
Subject: Re: [...] novice in economics?


Hans Ehrbar wrote:

> And
> they are not anti-theory, they are trying to do theory right.  But I
> think they can learn from the intellectuals on this l'st.  They
> must learn to discern who the reliable intellectuals are, and we
> intellectuals must learn to talk to them. 

Hans: they are not only anti-theory, they are anti-history.

When someone calls you a "revisionist" or a "fake leftist", a dialogue is 
still possible.

When someone threatens to kill you or other leftists in a public forum, and 
who has political connections to those who actually *do* kill "fake 
leftists", the discussion is OVER.

If you believe someone else is a "fascist" do you continue a "discussion" 
with them as if they were comrades?  When someone calls you a fascist, 
the discussion is OVER.

If these clowns would have gone into the bar in the basement of the union 
hall when I was an autoworker, and said that my union sisters and brothers 
were "revisionists",  people would laugh. If that same person made death 
threats and called my  co-workers "fascists", things would get mighty 
nasty very quickly.

If these sectarians visited my squatter and anarchists friends that I was 
hanging-out with earlier today and called them "fascists", what do you 
think would happen next?

For that matter, if these members of the "Stalin Society" went into any 
working-class pub in London and called the patrons "fascists", do you 
think that the others in the pub should have a "discussion" with them.

I don't talk to fascists. Whatever I have to say to them can be said with 
my fists or my boots. If they believe we're fascists, let them either get 
the fuck away and join a "revolutionary" l'st and leave us "fascists" in 
peace, or let them tell me to my *face* what they think. I'm willing to 
take any one of them on. If any are interested, we can arrange a place to 
meet. Some arguments can be won with words. Some arguments need the 
exclamation point of a blow to the face.

 > This is a very important forum. 

Get real.

Jerry


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