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From: cbcox-AT-rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Carrol Cox)
Subject: Re: Are angels male or female? Compliments to Zeynep.
To: marxism-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 1996 22:17:49 -0500 (CDT)


    I think our new friend from Turkey is going to be a great addition to
our l*st, more than making up for those lost to marxism2. The following
message is beautiful.
    Carrol

>
> My dear friends,
>
> I apologise, but I must say this already, even though I'm new here.
>
> I think we should post only to convince each other. There is a thing as an
> end to an argument, when the sides have said what they want to say, and
> can't convince each other. Repeating the same thing again, and again, and
> again, and again does not make the "enemy" understand it any better.
>
> I'm having a hard time separating the debates really going on from the ones
> that seem to be going on due to incredible efforts to artificially continue
> them. In Turkish, there is a phrase "arguing whether angels are male or
> female" referring to this type of endless discussion.
>
> Finally, don't anybody dare say I'm for censorship, or afraid of arguments,
> or betraying the working class by letting it be fooled by demagogues, or
> anything similar. I've heard it all, and I've also seen revolutionaries
> killed by other "revolutionaries" from rival factions.
>
> Just take this as a kind request, not to calm down, but rather to keep the
> debates relevant to all.
>
> Zeynep
>
>
>
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