Date: Mon, 29 Apr 1996 23:16:40 +0100
To: marxism-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
From: hariette-AT-easynet.co.uk (hariette spierings)
Subject: Re: Hugh and cry over "apartheid"



>	I definetely would agree with what you are saying, but the fact is
>that once there was a list where Marxists of various tendencies got along;
>it was called simply the Spoons Marxism List. But then a group of lunatics
>made a climate of hostility popular on the list calling people fascists,
>cops, running dogs of imperialism, etc. and it tore the quality of the
>list apart. I have no problem with PCP supporters, what I have a problem
>with is people who intentinally enter a list with the intention to split
>it into sub-ideological camps. Until Marxism calms down I'll stay on M2,
>occasionally read the M1 archives, and page through the archives from
>1994-1995 and remember the days of cooperation. 
>
>Kevin
>Cols, Oh
>


A voice from the past speaks!  But if in this list now we all get along
fairly well if not yet like a house on fire. 

Except for a tiny 3 person anarchist "front, composed by an "exile" who
calls himself a Trotskyst but does not even deserve that name, and another
two "exiles" representing one subscriber who call themselves "Maoists", but
who are not very good either, nor a measuring yard to judge any of the
others who subscribe that ideology. 

For the rest, everyone is got his own school of thought and all in peace.
Maybe one should also mention the ghost of "Pink Rosa" who makes its
appearence from time to time but with no one bothering with her, she is
doomed to return to Marxism2 in her other guise. There are a couple of out
and out defenders of capitalism, but they are not excesively impolite.

For the rest, we are all now "gentlemanly and womanly scholars" in this list.

Isn't that an advance?  Despite the dire "electronic Pol-pot fears", no one
in this list has been forced or "brainwashed" into defending the revolution
in Peru. 

However, many people have started to see why this is a just revolution.
They have started to dig the facts out for themselves and are all the better
people for that new knowledge.  Moreover, new talent is daily joining in and
liking the list a lot more than when the "laager professors" at Marxism2
started their "long trek" to the pond.  #

Why, if even Gary Mclleland, would you believe it - he doesn't even quite
believe it himself altogether yet - likes us a bit now and then.  And, we
are beginning to like him too, despite our differences and his opinion of
our Uncle Joe.

Someone ought to tell Kevin to grow up and admit he was wrong to leave in a
huff, and even worse to stay away so long when people who were more bitterly
involved that he ever was in the disputes he alleges drove him away from
Marxism 1, are now, if not the best of friends yet, at least punctilliosly
respectful of each other.  Maybe even Professor Hans may now be ready to
come out from under his comfort blanket and face the music!


Adolfo Olaechea



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