Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 22:28:33 +0200 To: marxism-AT-jefferson.village.virginia.edu From: m-14970-AT-mailbox.swipnet.se (Hugh Rodwell) Subject: Surplus value, profit & service workers Cc: amst015-AT-cantva.canterbury.ac.nz Over on the pond, Lisa ventures on to thin ice: >I wonder, can't "surplus value" be read as making sense outside of >commodity production? I know Marx presented his analysis primarily >in terms of commodity production, but, in keeping with the "product >of capital is profit", doesn't a service worker in some way produce >profit, i.e. some gross income to the owner that is above the wages >of the worker? Then this is hir production of profit, and the >definition of exploitation. It can be read any way you like. The problem here is that there is such a vague definition of 'services' in bourgeois economics. If you remove commodities from their central position in Marx's analysis, the whole shabang comes tumbling down. It is precisely the weakness of capitalism that it is organized around the production of commodities which combine a use value and an exchange value. The social relations between the producers and the owners of the means of production end up being mediated by things (sometimes perhaps of dubious materiality), by commodities, instead of being consciously organized for the material and cultural benefit of the producers in free association. It is good to keep the economic definition of exploitation (donating unpaid labour to the capitalist) apart from the more common-sense definition of brutally driving people to produce things or services for you. The one is historical and precise, the other is universal and a bit moralizing - depending on who uses it. The confusion of the two has caused huge problems in relation to Stalinism and its exploitation (common-sense definition) of Soviet labour. The whole of the State Capitalist theory is predicated on this confusion! Cheers, Hugh --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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