Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 17:30:18 -0400 To: marxism-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU From: dhenwood-AT-panix.com (Doug Henwood) Subject: Re: The working class - services & surplus value At 10:08 PM 4/30/96, Hugh Rodwell wrote: >As the following quote from Theories of Surplus Value shows, he was >explicitly critical of the 'tangible commodity' (NOT 'vendible' commodity) >line. I just re-read the relevant passages of TSV vol. 1 and Hugh is right and I was wrong. Very wrong. I usually like to know when I don't know what I'm talking about, but boy did I blow it this time. On p. 164 of TSV vol. 1 (Progress edition), Marx writes: "Adam Smith naturally includes in the labour which fixes or realises itself in a vendible and exchangeable commodity all intellectual labours which are directly consumed in material production. Not only the labourer working directly with his hands or a machine, but overlooker, engineer, manager, clerk, etc. - in a word, the labour of the whole personnel required ina particular sphere of material production to produce a particular commodity, whose joint labour (co-operation) is required for commodity production. In fact they add their aggregate labour to the constant capital, and increase the value of the product by this amount. (How far is this true of bankers, etc.?)" Marx doesn't answer his final question. A footnote refers to the discussion in Capital vol. 3; unfortunately I don't have the Progress edition - only the Vintage - so I don't know what KM said about the "parasitical role" of bankers on pp. 466-467, 494, 498-500, and 531-533. There are some wonderful passages in K3 about how the joint-stock company has divided the roles of owner and manager, and rendered owners useless to production, even though they still collect tribute in the form of interest and dividends. Since bankers are even less involved in financing actual production in the U.S. and the U.K. than they were in the mid-19C, I suspect they are less productive than even then. Any thoughts? Doug -- Doug Henwood Left Business Observer 250 W 85 St New York NY 10024-3217 USA +1-212-874-4020 voice +1-212-874-3137 fax email: <dhenwood-AT-panix.com> web: <http://www.panix.com/~dhenwood/LBO_home.html> --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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