Date: 28 Apr 96 01:18:02 EDT
From: neil <74742.1651-AT-compuserve.com>
To: Marxism list-e-mail <marxism-AT-jefferson.village.virginia.edu>
Subject:  Rotting stalinist baggage VS. Workers Socialism


TO:	Dave Hollis, INTERNET:dave-AT-parabol.cl.sub.de
CC:	J.S.Daborn, INTERNET:J.S.Daborn-AT-Sheffield.ac.UK
	Robt. Malecki, INTERNET:malecki-AT-algonet.se
	MARX#2, INTERNET:marxism2-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
	Mauro, INTERNET:Mauro.jr-AT-iol.it
	curtis price, INTERNET:cansv-AT-igc.apc.org
	jeff sparrow, INTERNET:jeffs-AT-werple.mira.net.au

Re:	State Capitalism or workers rule?

Dear friends,

Some other great works exposing the rise (and fall) of most state cap societies 
>from a marxist position of political economy are

Revolutionary Perspectives
% Comm. Workers Organization
PO Box 338
Sheffield, S3 9YX
UK

This is the best from the the "left-wing communists", The Communist -Left
Send them a "fiver' and youll get some good stuff.

A great well researched source is

THe Rise and Fall of Stalinism by Walter Daum  of the trotskyist  LRP
Its $15 pp but it is well worth it and i am not a trot  but this is a great book -
far better than  T. Cliffs "State Cap. in Russia" which is much outdated  now from its 
1950s origins. And the Daum book well proves the law of value operates in the state 
capitalist regimes (former and present) where as I think the SWP-UKs  Cliff 
absurdly tried  to avoid this.

Write 
LRP
PO Box 3573
Church St. Sta.
New York, NY 10008-3573

For works of Myasnikov and Mattick  send a few bucks to 

Collective Action Notes
% C. Price
Box 22962
Baltimore, MD 21203

If pro-worker and anti- wage slavery individuals and groups are to make a positive
contributions to the resurrection of Marxist thought , a thorough grasp of both the 
nature of Capital , State capitalism and what real workers socialism is , they should 
not be afraid to question the rotting old current leftist -stalino-trotto-social democrat 
baggage and give these above mentioned revolutinary works a try. 
Of course the basic works of Marx and Engles are powerful too! But , much , much 
comrades,  needs updating and new additions from contemporary marxists, 
and the left-communists, anarcho-communists  etc. are trying  at least to take up the 
tasks  and explain that the collapse of the "old movement'  was the collapse of state 
capitalism and not socialism or marxism!!!!

NC
Los Angeles  Workers' Voice
PO Box 57093
Los Angeles, CA .90057 USA
Believe me, as a former ML for  20 years (OK-I'll fess up!) this material plus actual 
intevention in the real struggles of working class people 




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