Date: Sat, 27 Apr 1996 08:49:08 +0200 (MET DST) To: marxism-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki) Subject: Rolf Mårten on the lunatic fringe? malecki writes: >>In reality M=E5rtens and company want to see the blood of >>peasants in Peru flowing. m=C5artens writes: >Nice, huh, to come from a person who attacks Mao Zedong and ( >according to Jay - I haven't seen that myself) says Gonzalo is >traitor to the people, and to be directed against me, who at >least have tried to make some concrete contributions towards >supporting the people's war in Peru. And: Has M=E5rtens found a follower in Jay? Good, they deserve each other. malecki writes: >>But never has M=E5rten said that real solidarity is figthing >>your own swedish imperialists here now M=E5rtens writes: >Oh no? That's what I've always been saying. Just read my >publications. >In order to get the Swedish imperialists down, its necessary >to combat their own attacks against the workers and their >(small-time) imperialism and not least it's necessary to >combat their masters in the world, the big-time imperialists >and (formerly, when they appeared as such) the social- >imperialists, of course. M=E5rtens as a swedish maoist has led a charmed life. His maoist ideology, which means in reality, that the Swedes are "small-time" imperialists-therefore you can go out and build a front with just about anybody in order to fight the big-time imperialist has become part of his lifestyle. Concretly that is exactly what M=E5rtens has always been doing organising everybody, including all wings of the swedish bourgeiosie to take on American imperialism-social imperialism (M=E5rtens means the Russians) or what ever.THey collect money for just about any movement. For Vietnam to muslim fundementalist they organise rallies. Everybody in there eyes are fighting imperialism of some sort and especially big time imperialism. So since 1974 that is what M=E5rtens has been doing. A charmed and popular money collecter and solidarity builder for the third world or fundementalists in Afghanistan-we all are comrades.. Never has he really critised Sweden or the bourgeoisie here because they are "more progressive" then big time imperialism like American and Russian according to M=E5rtens. No wonder they were so popular for a while everybody could do something for the third world and against America and Russia the big bad guys. If collecting money for third world causes was the goal of communists-Martens and company certainly did a good job. But as far as preparing swedish workers to fight for communism against there own bourgeois forget it. There are always new movements popping up like the mullahs in Afghanistan and Iran. Maoism in Sweden has been the cover for anybody who could afford it. But now when the welfare stae is beginning to go down like the titantic the good days for being money collectors is over. The "little" imperialists are now turning their guns on the swedish workers. No more of that third world solidarity shit. That is a thing of the past.What are you gonna do now M=E5rtens? Now that your "little" imperialists pals have turned on you? M=E5rtens writes: >The trotskyite line that Malinki advocates always has been >one which has hepled the U.S. imperialists on many counts and >not least the Soviet social-imperialists of yesterday, who >the Trotskyites didn't even agree *were* bourgeois and >imperialist but said were leading a "workers' state"(!) (even >if a "bureaucratically disfigured" one), and the Russian new >tsars also today. Well, we can,t build third world solidarity with the bourgeosie parties any longer. They are even cutting down the state involvement in the third world and the days when third world leaders coming here to get swedish money are long over.M=E5rtens pulls out the "social imperialist" card. Well, if we can,t build an alliance with the "little" bourgeoisie around questions in the third world, then we can do it on the Russian questiuon. Russian pheobia in Sweden is strong because the bougeoisie really were terrified of Russia. Swedish Maoist Theory was perfect for mobilising the youth of the middle class around just this anti-Soviet hysteria. If there had not been a theroy like the Swedish variant it just had to be invented. There is a big difference in the Social base of lets say the Pruvian comrades who follow the PCP variant of maoism and peoples war. I think that the people in Peru are really serious about making a revolution. The stuff about peoples war is interpeted as class war. This does not mean that the leaders should not know which class is really revolutionary. But M=E5rten and his ilk come from a entirely different background. There anti-imperialism is hardly the same. In fact it has always been based on giving critical support to its own bourgeoisie as being "small-time" against the big timers. Why everybody hates the russians. Ever since 1917 Sweden has been anti Bolshevik and anti Russia. Because no longer was it a question of imperialist sweden occupying russia as in earlier days, but the opposite. I wouldn,t be surprised if all this revisionist shit originated here in Sweden and Germany when the maoist movement discovered a counter revolution had taken place in Russia. And M=E5rtens mao worship is based on having peoples war as far away from Sweden as possible. This is not communist politics but a swedish bougeoisie and social democratic survival kit! M=E5rten writes: >Today the Swedish bourgeoisie - at least, the governmental >one - among other things is engaging in an seemngly mad, >extremely reactionary attack on the people: They actually >want to destroy important parts of their own industry - >and everyone knows who'll be asked to pay for *that*, it's >the workers in Sweden iteslf and also the oppressed peoples, >who'll be "requsted" to contibute some more superprofits - >and have put forward the proposal that an entire nuclear >power reactor (one of the 12 existing here, and producing >some 45 of the entire electricity in Seden) be closed and >destroyed before 1998. Talking about the defeat of your own bougeois! Read the above. M=E5rtens hardly sounds like a great fighter of imperialism at home..He is more worried about closing one nuclear reactor then anything else. In fact there is a lot more real attacks on the working class going on here then that. Anybody who has read my grafitti stuff knows that on this list. M=E5rtens writes: >Most people - those who don't understand Marxism, at least - >cannot figure out, what might be the motive behind such a >thing. *I* know the - counterrevolutionary and foul - motive, >and am have been informing everybody I can reach on that count, >for a long time now. I've taken the initiative for a protest >campaign against that attempted massive sabotage by the >bourgeois government here. >Where does Malinki stand on this? He *says* he is sceptical >to the (indeed arch-reactionary, bourgeois) "green" ideology >- and here that little part, in his thinking, which does >include some real working-class intuition seems to show up. >But has he contributed anything towards countering those >foul plans of "our" Swedish government? >I think not! Doesn't he in *fact* support "our" bourgeoisie, >here in Sweden, on this count, too? I very much suspect that >he does. M=E5rtens ideas of a massive attack are in reality his hate for the "Greens". That i can understand.If Maoism and M=E5rtens was the movement in the late 60ties and early seventies it is the greens that have taken over that role >from the maoists. The "masses that use to follow the popular third world movements has now turned inwards and is belly gazing and trying to clean up capitalism. The green ideology has grown as the post war generation as aged! No longer screaming Ho Ho Ho Chi Min, they are collecting plastic things,seperating garbage and turning towards all sorts of now that i have experienced everything, what should i do now stuff. But it is hardly a bougeois attack on the masses by the greens. In fact the real bourgeois has effectively stopped the greens on this question and atomic power most certainly not disappear from the Swedish scene. The latest garantee for that was to sell majorities to foreign investors in Germany and Finland. The swedish bougeois have always had a weak spot for German imperialism by the way. The danes and Norweigians certainly do not they remember the Nazi,s far to well. What M=E5rtens is peeved about is that the Greens have taken away his social basis! Now instead of Mao buttons and posters and clothes. It is green buttons and clothes and posters. The swedish maoist variant of anti imperialism has lost out to the liberal greens who have more to offer them then this standing in front of state run liquer store collecting money for the third world. Now they are all ex- maoists doing the same thing they did before but with dandelion bottons and invionmentalists posters hanging on the wall.. >Among other things, there's need for a demonstration in Stockholm >against those bourgeois sabotage plans. How about it, want to >help the (other) workers here out a little and contribute towards >arranging this? M=E5rtens idea of demonstrating against the greens is really fucking funny.It will be him and a few others demonstrating against the people that once marched in their own demonstrations. Even former "comrades". The greens are doing exactly what M=E5rtens did earlier but are using the envionment as their main arguement instead of the third world. Why even the anti-imperialist Mcdonalds people have joined the greens. No wonder M=E5rtens is desperate. However to be honest. The left has really capitulated to the greens politically. Nationalism-anti industrial working class-and anybody who is a friend of the envionment is our friend is very damaging. The greens have in fact a posture which makes workers think that they are the real enemy at least for workers. I would like to point out here that M=E5rtens is on the fringe and no more answers will be coming unless he can write something serious. The swedish variation of maoisn is dead and you did it M=E5rtens! Good.. malecki in exile --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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