Date: Sun, 28 Apr 1996 10:20:49 +0100
To: marxism-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
From: hariette-AT-easynet.co.uk (hariette spierings)
Subject: Re: reply to Adolfo


>At 01:30 PM 4/27/96 +0100, you wrote:
>
>
>
>>Maybe now you would admit that no-one here is a homophobe for having given
>>you a hard time given that your intentions were to combat us, and combat
>>against the revolution just as well?  For us, you were like Roehm, despite
>>your working class ancestry.
>>
>>
>>Adolfo
>>
>>
> Adolfo 
>
>Cyber space is a strange phenomenon.  You are so bad that I am beginning to
>positively like you.  I am convinced now that if we met we would be great
>friends.
>
>Irrational but there it is.  
>
>Take care
>
>Gary


I always like people who have courage to defend their beliefs and their
democratic rights.  So, you may well be right, Gary, in that we could indeed
be friends.  The value of criticism and struggle is also that people can in
the clash of their ideas, their political and even military forces, achieve
insights on their opponents that under "peaceful pond" conditions are
impossible. 

You see, under "peaceful pond" conditions, everyone can go on pretending to
be what they like, and if no one challeges them to the point that "fur
flies", their "revolutionary or Marxist masks" - that disguising of their
true feelings, of their deep down ideas with slogans or plausible and "nice"
sounding theories, that which we call hypocresy and "two facedness" in
politics, those masks, seems to me, remain firmly in place and you do not
really know who you are dealing with.  

Normally, I never trust anybody until I have fought with them and seen how
far they can go, what weapons would they use, what targets would they hit,
etc.   

I think this method is invaluable for learning to perceive whether people
have or not an "elevated spirit", and whether or not there is actual
"solidarity of their work and of their efforts".  If that turns out to be
so, why excomunicate each other?  Given a little more experience, why not
even be friends?  Would that not be something socialist?  Something Marxist?

In any case, you can always count on me to stand for your democratic rights,
irrespective of your sexual orientation. And that includes your right not to
be victimised in any way for your ideas or your inclinations, as long as you
do not counterpose them to the cause of the revolution of the exploited and
oppressed masses. 

Adolfo


PS:  See, for example how Mr. Andersenn in Denmark is unable to perceive the
degree of understanding that struggle has brought upon two adversaries.
>From the side lines of our struggle the only thing he can do is to appear
ridiculous:

hariette spierings wrote (to Gary):
> For us, you were like Roehm, despite your working class ancestry.
> 
> Adolfo


Stop this, you little shithead.

 
Jorn Andersen

IS
Denmark



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