File spoon-archives/marxism.archive/marxism_1996/96-07-marxism/96-07-05.033, message 125


Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 10:37:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kevin Cabral <kcabral-AT-freenet.columbus.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Labor Party and our actions concerning it.


On Wed, 3 Jul 1996 MD575151-AT-aol.com wrote:

> On the Labor Party

>    Jim Miller writes, then I write, then Jim writes, then I write etc. etc...

> >   Are there thousands of proletarians willing to fight for a better
> >world? What does this mean? 

> workers, I assume, feel otherwise.  Nonetheless, in the process for fighting
> for more power and more say in production, people are fighting for socialism,
> weather they know it or not.

	No, I don't believe that at all. Plenty of worker's fight for more
power, but aren't sure about the merits of centralized planning and how
that could feasibly take away their power. Fighting for more power in the
workplace does not make one a socialist revolutionary. Lech Walesa fought for
more power in the workplace against the Polish government, was he fighting for
socialism? 			
	
> >How do these workers indicate what they mean by a "better world"?

>    As I said before, they fight for more power.  This power may come in the
> form of buying power (higher wages), the power to stand up to the boss
> (work-place safety, strikes etc.), or even the power to say what is produced
> and where (this is often the case in issues of downsizing and moving jobs to
> the third world.).  The struggle for power also has many other
> manifestations.  Weather they are conscious of it or not, these issues are
> steps toward a socialist society.  No matter how one denies it, workers power
> has to come in the form of socialism.  Otherwise it will not work.  It seems
> that the more socialist the demands of workers become (many LPA chapters
> passed resolutions calling for public ownership of the "fortune 500", or at
> least public ownership of the closed down plants) the more and more they deny
> they are socialist.  Perhaps when socialism is achieved, people will deny it
> is socialism!  That is not a big worry of mine.  Socialism by any other name.

	Mike, which chapters of the LPA have called for the expropriation
of the top 500 corporations in the United States? I would'nt believe that
a single one of them has. Are you telling the truth? Which chapters have?
How many members do they have? 

Kevin
Cols, Oh
	




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