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From: Luis Quispe <lquispe-AT-blythe.org>
Subject: Re: Quispe's rotten bloc: A sample
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 03:11:22 -0400 (EDT)


> 
> Below is a sample of Quispe's work. I post it because some like Malecki 
> and others new to the issue are still trying to claim that Adolfo Olaechea is 
> part of a "rotten bloc."  In actuality, there is nothing in AO's bloc that 
> wasn't in Quispe's bloc, as the post below shows. On the other hand, 
> Quispe has recently added ultra-Trotskyist Malecki and openly pro-peace 
> accords Burford. That is pretty much the line up that the RCP-
> USA/RIM/IEC has arranged internationally. It's no accident. The fact that 
> Quispe adds Burford to his bloc reveals again his sudden turncoat nature, 
> the mark of a party-hopping cop.
Poor MIM speculates to the extreme with blocs, but MIM hides the fact
that it officially supported the peace scam. It is on record in your 
publications, you cannot deny it. Chris has not claimed to be in either
side of this comtroversy.
 
> As time goes on, Quispe's bloc seeks to change the subject. Some who 
> were quiet while the central issues were being fought out now speak for 
> Quispe. First we had the Jesuitic questions asked to divert the struggle and 
> blunt the impact of a harsh struggle by our middle-class standards on 
> INTERNET--the uncovering of a three-year old police plot.
What uncovering? What police work, other than MIM's under the
hiden hand of the pigs to neutralize the RCP and split Maoists?

 Now we have 
> people answering the simpler questions, because those are the only ones 
> they can handle. They don't care whether the PCP gets to speak unimpeded 
> by its genuine representatives. They only care if the alleged PCP 
> representatives sound like themselves politically, regardless of whether they 
> are cops or not.
MIM-COP calling "cops" others to confuse and misled. 
> 
> The real question is which is the genuine representative of the revolution in 
> Peru, AO or Quispe?
No one has pretend to be, and is not a matter of individuals, only practice 
amongst the masses determines who is who.

 The question is why does Quispe fabricate 
> documents?
We will post at due time all your gargabe you send the MPPs in Europe
and America for years (at least since 1991.) They have been 
released by the organization as irrelevant. You know well that all
documents on or about MIM we publihsed are genuine. You can use your
defense mechanism that these are "fabricated", but the fact these are
in agreement with your positions published in your papers, so it is
public record. You may tried to foul few by jumping to Olaechea/Arce
WMC, but you have a record in support of the peace talks that you 
cannot erased. Your "suspension" is the most filthy...

 The question is why does Quispe set up rotten blocs that the 
> PCP never did? Burford is trying to read the tea leaves from the PCP-CC 
> of today, but he passes over the question of Quispe's authenticity.
You just don't the PCP, you see under the eyes of Borja or Olaechea, they
are not the PCP neither do we. Only the practice determines who is who.
No need to say who speak for the Party, the PCP is not MIM, it is a
clandestine Party leading an armed revolution. Also the MPP is not MIM
nor does exactly what the Party does in Peru. Grow up little MIM!

> I ask again, when did the PCP ever set up a rotten bloc including the likes 
> of IU and the CP-USA's counterpart in Peru? The answer is never. And if 
> Quispe set one up here where is his explanation for his theoretical 
> departure from PCP line? The answer is that there is none offered. He just 
> did it because it was a cheap and efficient way to gather intelligence.
To gather intelligency from whom? from gargage and useless 
leaders of organizations such as rasputin MIM, CPUSA, WW, RCP, what for? 
Don't be stupid, MIM?
 
> Notice in the post below he drops the pretense of speaking of the "rank-
> and-file" from the neo-Trotskyist Workers World Party and the revisionist 
> CPUSA.
THIS IS CORRECT. THE RANK AND FILE SHOULD BE WON TO THE SIDE OF THE
REVOLUTION.

 He just outright counts them as endorsers and mushes them 
> together in public with MIM's name without MIM's permission.
THAT WAS PUBLISHED THREE YEARS AGO. WE WERE GIVING YOU THE BENEFIT OF THE
DOUBT, BUT WE ARE CONVINCED NOW THAT YOU ARE A SUSPECT ENTITY AND THE
P. HAS RELEASED ALL THE CRAP YOU SENT AND WILL CUT ALL INFORMATION. YOU
WILL HAVE TO REPEAT WHATEVER THE CHARLATAN GIVES YOU OR YOU MAY HAVE TO
JUMP TO OTHER "STRUGGLES" TO SELL YOUR MIM-THOUGHT: MAYBE MUMIA, ZAPATISTA,
FILIPINAS, MEXICO...THERE WILL ALWAYS BE BUSINESS FOR YOU MIM.

 No such 
> bloc was ever created by the PCP in Peru. So the question for the Burfords 
> and others confused by Quispe's latest mask--why did Quispe do it, if it is 
> not genuine PCP line? Burford is trying to ask where the PCP-CC support 
> is for the WMC: well this question has been around much longer for the 
> PCP-CC to answer publicly and clearly: when did the PCP-CC ever back 
> Quispe's approach below? The answer is never.
MIM, ALL THE RELATION THE MPPs HAD with you WAS BY MAIL, so you don't
know an iota on the PCP. You speculate, never a Party document has
mentioned you, because you are irrelevant, you are not Maoist, you are
a strange brand of Troskyism, Zinovism and revisionism...a small troyan
horse of the intelligence services.

 The answer is that AO's 
> critics don't hold themselves to the same standards they hold AO to, 
> because in reality they have no line at all, just the cops', cyberLiberals' and 
> ultra-Trotskyists' desire to cause havoc in the revolutionary forces.
If you don't back your cop thing, people just laugh, and make irrelevant
whatever you say.

> (For this reason, it does seem to be a good idea to get off this list for a
> while.)
> 
> There are those lobbying the PCP-CC to adopt the policy below.
Brutish MIM, the PCP is not the democratic Congress to lobby. Lobby who?
Arce? He is only a sympathizer like Luis or the Charlatan may. Who are
you going to lobby imbecile?

 And 
> everyone is free to think that the policy below is a good thing of "uniting all 
> the Left" or whatever, but it isn't PCP policy, and hasn't been for more than 
> 16 years.
What's the PCP policy? MIM-COP you don't know, you just speculate.
We are not in Peru, we are here building solidarity work to bring
a public opinion favorable to the People's War. We are not waging 
People's War here, if we do, MIM wouldn't be here anylonger!

 That is the question--not what the reader wants politically him or 
> herself, but what the PCP wants. That is the only way to evaluate this 
> question. Quispe claims to represent the PCP faithfully. He must now be 
> judged on that claim.
Luis claims nothing. He is only an individual and as such is meaningless,
the masses make history! MIM your self-serving jump to the wagon of
Arce and the charlatan won't go too far, simply no one would benefit
your company. You will junked, opportunists like MIM must be dumped,
who wants traitors and agents of reaction like MIM.

> For those new to this, I'd also advise the following: None of the main 
> participants in the pro-Quispe bloc has done any serious investigation. 1. 
> Chris Burford--he makes accusations against AO that he could check 
> himself in London, but he does not. He also could have asked MIM for 
> documents relating to fabrication of Quispe's, but he did not.
What fabrication? You did not challenge the document we posted and will
post more to unmask your reactionary role.

 He is not 
> serious. 2. Malecki--He was never a supporter of the People's War in Peru. 
> He is interested in this issue only to cause havoc in the "Stalinist" bloc. 
> Malecki didn't ask MIM for any documents.
What documents MIM? Your print gargabe, most written by a MI-5 (the baldhead
of Michigan according to friends in Europe, probable a plant.)

 He is not serious. 3. Gina--
> Gina opposes "casting out" enemies, which is fine for her own line as long 
> as she doesn't call it Maoist. Like it or not, the PCP line is to "cast out" 
> enemies.
Yes, enemies like MIM. We will crush you little MIM.

 Gina has not asked MIM for documents. She is not serious either. 
> All these people talk and talk about things without investigating them; 
> combined, Quispe's supporters have had less contact with Quispe than 
> MIM has.
THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS! WHAT CONTACT, EXCEPT YOUR UNWANTED AND NONSTOPPED
JUNK MAIL YOU SENT US. WE HAVE NOT RESPONDED YOUR LETTERS.

> The June Maoist Sojourner on this subject is out. Send $1 to MIM,PO Box 
> 3576, Ann Arbor, MI 48106. Also visit our web site, 
> http://ursula.blythe.org
NOTHING COMPARABLE WITH THE PCP WEB PAGE: http://www.blythe.org/peru-pcp
Free of charge.
> Sample Quispe document with rotten bloc listed at end now follows:
POLITICAL ALLIANCES ARE TEMPORARY AND RELATIVE, BUT STRUGGLE IS ABSOLUTE.
THIS WAS IN EARLY 1993, NOW THE SITUATION HAS CHANGED. MIM GROSSLY
INCLUDES THE RCP AND THE GHOST "GODENAS" SUPPORT COMMITTEE (AT THE TIME
UNKNOWN TO US.) SEE THE NEW FLAG VOL. 1, No. 2 page 1-2.
LOOK WHO FALSIFIES DOCUMENTS. IT IS THE ROTTEN MIM!
EXCEPT MIM, THE MASSES OF ALL GROUPS LISTED BELOW ARE WELCOME IN THE 
SUPPORT MOVEMENT TO THE PEOPLE'S WAR.


> ---------------------------------
> 
>             IN THE EYES OF THE SINISTER REGIME ALL PERUVIANS
>                              ARE SUSPECTS
> 
>  Two courageous American lawyers, Leonard Weinglass
> and Peter Erlinder, are demanding a resolution from the OAS's
> Inter-American Commission on Human Rights (ICHR) against the army-run
> Fujimori government. Three petitions were originally filed by the
> Peruvian Association of Democratic Lawyers (case No. 11.015.) The
> complaint demands that the ICHR adopt measures to protect the lives
> of more than 2,400 political prisoners secluded in inhuman conditions
> in Peruvian jails, and especially to defend the life of Dr. Manuel
> Abimael Guzma'n (also a lawyer), the world's most famous political
> leader prisoner as well as an undisputed leader of millions of
> Peruvians. It demands that the regime comply with international
> agreements regarding the fair treatment of political prisoners, and
> to cease the persecution, detention, disappearances and murders of
> lawyers representing them. It is public knowledge that the Fujimori
> regime is guilty of atrocious genocides. One example is the May
> 1993 army assault on the jail of Cantogrande where 100 political
> prisoners were assassinated. It demands the release from isolation of
> Dr. Alfredo Crespo (Guzman's lawyer), Dr. Jorge Cartagena, and Dr.
> Martha Huatay, and that the government be held responsible for the
> illegal treatment of lawyers who defend political prisoners.
> 
> The government cannot politically and militarily defeat the
> opposition led by the Communist Party of Peru (PCP) that has a vast
> influence in the country, so as part of a psychosocial warfare, the
> army is engaged in wholesale torture and murder of innocent people.
> For instance, its current "final offensive" in the Huallaga area
> where the guerrillas were able to ambush them and easily break the
> military encirclement. In retaliation, army helicopter gunships have
> strafed civilian hamlets located near the Huallaga River and more
> than 100 bodies of mainly women and children were dumped by soldiers
> into the river. Even Peru's National Human Rights Coordinating
> Committee has cited charges of rape, torture and burning of houses by
> the genocidal army. All access to the zone has been denied to
> observers, including the International Red Cross.  For this reason,
> Amnesty International (AI) presence in monitoring on-site events has
> been null in Peru.  The conditions imposed by the regime upon Rights
> organizations are humiliating. The regime demands that if they want
> to report some "undemocratic excesses" of the government, AI or other
> National Right group must first denounce the rebels as "human rights
> violators" of course with unverified information provided by the army
> or its pack of senderologists (Carlos Tapia, Degregori, Raul Gonzales).
> In other words, the army wants AI and Peru's Roght groups to be involved
> in its psychological campaign against the people.
> 
> Just recently, the Commission on Human rights of the New York
> Bar Association (the same group that organized a party in honor of
> the tyrant at the Waldorf Astoria hotel on October, 1993) sent a
> delegation to Peru.  They were demeaned and discredited by government
> officials and the government controlled media. They were
> accused of "interfering in internal affairs." That cynical excuse by
> the reactionaries in Peru contradicts the huge military, economic,
> and intelligence aid of U.S. imperialism to the Fujimori regime,
> (isn't that an outright interference in our internal affairs?)
> Without the U.S. aid, the people led by the PCP would topple the
> government in less than 48 hours.
> 
> The campaign of murder by Fujimori's army is as vicious as ever,
> especially after the U.S. State Department has recently given
> them the green light by issuing its well known key word: "progress in
> human rights." The excuse of "war on drugs" in the Huallaga is not
> there anymore. The DEA has finally concluded that high ranking
> army generals supposedly conducting the counter-subversive war are
> deeply involved in cocaine trafficking. It is clear that the U.S. was
> not conducting high tech surveillance on their Peruvian partners (the
> army) but they were targeting the rebels.
> 
> Except for the liberated areas under PCP control or influence, in
> Peru there is no recourse to any authority, other than the security
> forces, who are precisely the ones responsible for the crimes
> inflicted upon the people. The curfews, demolition and burning of
> homes by army soldiers is happening not only in occupied Palestine,
> it is more frequent in Peru. The people are unsafe at home. At
> any moment they can be subjected to midnight searches, during which
> entire households, mainly women and children, are raped and
> beaten. Arrests during such operations are common. The staged
> scenarios to justify these atrocities are already in place: These
> were "terrorist" homes, top PCP leaders were arrested there or they
> are the killers of "Mother Courage." Attorney General Nelida Cola'n
> (Fujimori's most vicious "public defender") quickly the "facts" and
> cover-up the crimes, so everything is "legal" for the security forces,
> and they will be ready for the next crime.
> 
> The entire country now lies in wait for the PCP's strategic
> offensive so they can have a chance to rise up and avenge the
> genocides. And this historical moment may come sooner than expected.
> The government is pushing towards an inevitable uprising. The longer
> they resist the people's desire for revolution, the more overwhelming
> the results will be. The economy is in deep trouble (the "privatization"
> of decrepit state enterprises is purely a show), the industrial growth
> is negative and unemployment has reached record levels. Hunger and
> starvation are rampant. What "achievement" can Fujimori claim? For
> most Peruvians it is only one: Peru is now one of the world's top
> countries in spread of tuberculosis and cholera. The heroic people of
> Peru have nothing to lose by joining the People's War but their chains.
> For them, it is better to die fighting against the oppressor than
> starve to death.
> 
> It is a shame that the "free press" in the U.S. has been reporting
> only the government's version of events; and that is the main reason
> why the `New Flag'exists and it will continue to exist, to bring you
> alternative news, the other side of the story.  The people's side.
> 
> Your response to our printed articles has been great, and we hope you
> will continue to enjoy every issue.  We'd like to hear your comments
> and suggestions and also encourage you to get involved by writing
> articles.  We have a saying in Peru: "never leave the open field to
> the reactionaries" (no dejaremos la cancha libre a los reaccionarios.)
> 
> Our thanks to our friends and contributors to La Nueva Bandera:
> Committee Sol Peru of London, El Diario International (Belgium),
> Atelier Franco-Peruano (Paris), Peru Information Center (Seattle),
> CSRP (Australia), Peru Scholars (Colorado), Peru Solidarity
> (Wisconsin), Prison Legal News, Comittee of Solidarity with
> Peru-Rhode Island, Committee of Solidarity with Peru-New Jersey,
> several International Emergency Committees (IEC), Committee of
> Solidarity with Peru-New England, Student Action Committee-
> Connecticut, Movimientos Populares Peru (MPP) and others.
> 
> We appreciate the support and solidarity to the People's War
> in our country to the following North American political
> organizations:
> 
> Workers World Party-USA
> Revolutionary Communist Party -Australia
(MIM-deleted)
> Movimiento Liberacion Nacional (MLN)-Puerto Rico
> Movimiento Popular Dominicano (MPD)
> Action Socialista-Canada
> Committee in Solidarity with Peruvian Revolution-Montreal
> Commite en Solidaridad con la Revolucion Peruana (CSRP)-Australia
> Comittees of Correspondence-Boston
> Paterson Anarquist Committee-NJ
> 
>   THE EDITORS
> 
> 
> =========================================================>  The preceeding was from La Nueva Bandera, a
>  bi-monthly magazine that provides news and
>  analysis about the people's war in Peru.  If you'd
>  like more information, or would like to make a
>  donation of stamps, write to:
>     The New Flag
>     30-08 Broadway, Ste. 159
>     Queens, New York 11106
>     We can be reached through email at:
>     lquispe-AT-nyxfer.blythe.org
> 
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