Date: Wed, 3 Jul 96 12:29:54 GMT From: Adam Rose <adam-AT-pmel.com> Subject: Re: Iran's role for imperialism > > You keep arguing as if US imperialism = imperialism, period. > > Obviously, losing an arselicking vassal state like Saudi Arabia is a loss > for the US, just as the loss of the Shah and his state was. However, it > would not necessarily be a loss for the imperialist system, which after all > represents the capitalism of our epoch. The surplus value generated in > Saudi Arabia would just get pumped somewhere else -- a bit more might stay > in the pockets of local capitalists, the rest would go to British or French > or German imperialists. > The educated stupidity of this has me dribbling at the mouth. The loss of Saudi Arabia today would be a bigger blow to Imperialism today than the loss of Egypt was in the 50's. A few bombs in Bahrain and the Imperialists are shitting themselves. They know the whole region is a tinder box waiting for a spark. In the middle east, to use the fundamentalists language, there are many Satans, but the US is the big Statan. In the middle east, being anti US is being anti Imperialist. One of the criticisms socialists make of fundamentalists is precisely that because they do not look towards the working class to fight against US Imperialism, they end up accomodating to it. Saying that the fundamentalists represent a smaller version of Imperialism is to ignore the bitter anti Imperialism and revolutionary spirit which moitivates their supporters, male + female. The problem with their politics is not that they may end up acting in the interests of German Imperialism ( !? ) , but that their politics prevent them from fighting against Imperialism effectively. Adam. Adam Rose SWP Manchester UK --------------------------------------------------------------- --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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