Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 23:46:49 +0100 From: hariette-AT-easynet.co.uk (hariette spierings) Subject: Re: analogy > >It goes without saying that this serious critical enterprise should >continue to be a "gay science" in the tradition of Marx who never >missed a chance to "laugh at them and poke holes in their absurdities." > >Vladimir > Lenin, long ago established that the defeat of bourgeois ideology by Marxism - the theoretical VICTORY of marxism - meant that bourgeois ideology continued the fight against Marxism on the GENERAL GROUNDS of marxism itself. That is why the most advanced bourgeois ideology is not the rubbish dealt by the "Nostradamuses" who influence the masses at all times through the bourgeois media dominance. That is a silly battle today, if only because the bourgeois media monopoly - including publishing and "progressive publishing" too, will always overwhelm by the sheer weight of massive propaganda any "serious" attempt to debunk bourgeois pre-eminence at that level. Bilenkin, who tried to sell us Zugianov, should by now have enough experience of what that bourgeois apparatus means even to sell the masses a walking corpse like Yeltsin and a Cossack Bonaparte like Lebed. Today, what is of value to the proletariat is debunking revisionist ideas of many hues which seek to divert the class struggle to the field of bourgeois politics. That is what is lacking, and that is what tends to be covered up by diverting the discussion into whether inanities of the sort put out by Carroll merit "studying" even down to its footnotes!. Please! Doug, on the other hand, thinks I am being "dumb"? Alright: Prove it, and tell me what valuable contribution to human knowledge from the open bourgeois field merits to waste more than ten seconds in debunking? The "creations" of Carroll and Co, only took 5 seconds, to be found nothing but overwordy nothingness. The fact is that from Lenin onwards, no Marxist theoretician, and we had great ones too, has felt the need to debunk any bourgeois theory as such with any special panflet. The theoretical victory of marxism is absolute and undeniable. To want to do a "Marx and Engels" TODAY on people like Carroll is not only wasting time, but it would be like fishing in a barrel. If Doug finds that entertaining, so be it. But I do not!. Adolfo --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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