Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 10:07:24 -0400 From: Spoon Collective <spoons> Subject: Re: China + maoism & state caps (fwd) --- Forwarded mail from neil <74742.1651-AT-CompuServe.COM> >From spoons Tue Jul 16 03:26:15 1996 Received: from arl-img-4.compuserve.com ([149.174.217.134]) by jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU (8.7.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id DAA36719 for <marxism-AT-jefferson.village.virginia.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 03:26:14 -0400 Received: by arl-img-4.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id DAA09699; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 03:25:31 -0400 Date: 16 Jul 96 03:23:33 EDT From: neil <74742.1651-AT-CompuServe.COM> To: Marxism list-e-mail <marxism-AT-jefferson.village.virginia.edu> Cc: Garry/CWO <holliegp-AT-eee2bham.ac.uk>, "J.S.Daborn" <J.S.Daborn-AT-Sheffield.ac.UK>, "Robt. Malecki" <malecki-AT-algonet.se>, curtis price <cansv-AT-igc.apc.org>, adam rose <adam-AT-pmel.com>, SLP <75702.1036-AT-CompuServe.COM> Subject: China + maoism & state caps Message-ID: <960716072333_74742.1651_EHL74-1-AT-CompuServe.COM> Dear gina and robert, Per your 7/15 sparring: The old classic colonialism dominations has been surpased in the modern age by more efficient methods of finance caps , 'loans', "aid', trade monopoly to keepdomination and stunt the growth of rivals. of course the military agression club is kept close by, US marines/bombing, French legion, etc. Gina should look around the world and see how much her vaunted national bourg. have bought into ,and been born into, this set-up. They get the "freedom' to exploit ther 'own' workers and accumulate capital + imperialism lets these "newer' coupon clippers invest huge amounts in western govt. bonds + shift profits overseas- as long as they 'play ball' and most all of this nat'l bourgeois likes to play ball-- and bounce bullets nad truncheons on workers haeds when they fighback. Gina sees the growth of state capitalism --western style andcollapsed Russian bloc style somewhat. Bob Malecki needs to see that statification of industry in not necesarily 'progressive' and working class. If it was , Then Peronist , mussolini and Francoist regimes would also be on his 'defense list' of his " degenerate workers states".I am not trying to slander Malecki because he does not support these outfits of course. Just point out his contradiction on this. workers movements , class battles need to eventually make mass assuaults on the bourg. systems and SOCIALIZE the means of productions under revolutionary workers control, Rev. councils, militias etc. Robert M. needs to see it is many times the capitalist CRISIS cycle of the BOURGEOIS system itself (as wel l as growing class antagonisms) ,the increase before big wars, of growing organic composition of capital and the falling rate of profit which pushes the rulers in this direction-- and in using their STATE to support these enterprises with another share of overall surplus value- to strenghten capitals grip.. --- End of forwarded message from neil <74742.1651-AT-CompuServe.COM> --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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