Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 18:29:17 -0400 From: Spoon Collective <spoons> Subject: Re: State caps, state control & maoism --- Forwarded mail from neil <74742.1651-AT-CompuServe.COM> >From spoons Tue Jul 16 16:19:34 1996 Received: from dub-img-1.compuserve.com (dub-img-1.compuserve.com [149.174.206.131]) by jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU (8.7.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA16281 for <marxism-AT-jefferson.village.virginia.edu>; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:19:29 -0400 Received: by dub-img-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id QAA18592; Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:17:12 -0400 Date: 16 Jul 96 16:15:05 EDT From: neil <74742.1651-AT-CompuServe.COM> To: "Robt. Malecki" <malecki-AT-algonet.se> Cc: Garry/CWO <holliegp-AT-eee2bham.ac.uk>, "J.S.Daborn" <J.S.Daborn-AT-Sheffield.ac.UK>, Marxism list-e-mail <marxism-AT-jefferson.village.virginia.edu>, curtis price <cansv-AT-igc.apc.org> Subject: State caps, state control & maoism Message-ID: <960716201505_74742.1651_EHL81-1-AT-CompuServe.COM> Dear Robert, gina, et al. Robert m. -- glad you stumbled back into the 2nd WW because its helps clarify my point here . Even the stalinist state caps planning was not unique. State caps. and militrarism was employed in allied as well as fascist imperialist states. Look at the state planning systems in UK, Italy, Germany, Japan China and even the "privateer" capitalist exploiter paradise the USA, as well as the USSR.. State caps made militarism much more efficient for the short term interest. Of course in the long run, this becomes a drag, nay an addiction, for some wings of capital --but is has a horrific but necessary price to pay for imperailist ruling classes, east and west to begin a new cycle of accumulation!. This contradiction really grabbed hold of your ex- Russian USSR "degenerate workers state ' helping lead to its collapse -as it was weaker capital overall than the USA and its bloc. Now the USA , W. European states, Japan, are fracturing and the contradictions along with others , Falling profit rates, more ugly competitions-end of accum. cycle -are wreaking more havoc in western imperialism.. this is one of the underlying basis of the pairing down in state services for workers, "dowsizing" ,whilst increasing the dole outs for the capitalist class parasites , including ouright parasitism, like the USA-- S&L bailouts of $500 Billion for the rich , a bi-partisan plan of Democrats and Republicans, in western style state cap/priv cap unity.. Neil --- End of forwarded message from neil <74742.1651-AT-CompuServe.COM> --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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