From: Luis Quispe <lquispe-AT-blythe.org>
Subject: Re: Dissecting the New Flag
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:18:46 -0400 (EDT)


> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, Rubyg580-AT-aol.com wrote:
> >
> >If Jay or Adolfo thinks not, let them take an article from NF that 
> >exposes the line of RCP on the "peace talks" hoax, and dissect 
> >it paragraph by paragraph, like I did with the WMC call, and show 
> >that its not *really* opposing RCP's line.  Let them "prove" that NF 
> >really supports Avakian and the Fujimori regime, if that's what they 
> >think.  In fact, they cannot do any such thing because the evidence 
> >they will "expose" can only prove the opposite.
> >
> >Gina/ Detroit

I don't think you are coherent and rational, we have several posts
and statement you praising the New Flag. First, you have never work
organically with us, so your knowledge on us is very limited.
Second, your short relationship with us was exclusively to distribute
the magazine which you did it. When you approached us, you were an avowed
Avakian fan, you thought that your ex-Chairman Bob was being deceived
by the US RCP leaders. My comrades opened your eyes, they told you
that wasn't the case but Avakian was still in charge. Then you starting
to hate Avakian in a subjective manner that we found it irrational.
Now Avakian becomes a smokescreen for your counterrevolutionary
activities in following blindly dog adolfo and slandering the PCP and its 
generated organizations. You will be judged for that.

> Fine, Gina.  Let's see, I'll start with issue #2, oh, here is 
> a good one!  It's on page 9, entitled "The Silence of the Lambs".
> You're right, it is opposing Avakian and Fujimori.
This was a very mild Arce's criticism that doesn't even mention the
RCP/Co-rim by name, at the time Arce was still controlled by Avakian.
You don't only are hard of hearing but cannot read accurately: in the
same issue there is an analysis of the government's secret document
on capitulation written by the French Atelier's group, and an official
communique sent directly by the Central Communist Party of Peru and the
Northern Regional Committee "Peace Accords, reactionary, liquidationist
and divisive slander", and finally there is the statement against 
capitulation by the Communist Party of Turkey (TKP-ML).
  
> Maybe I'll start with the first issue that came out after we met
> the New Flag, that's the `July/Aug.95 edition.  Hmmm...dang!  
> Can't find a single word against the  RCP or Avakian written by
> NF.  There is an article on page 18 entitled:  Last Hope of Opportunism
> Swept Away: RIM's Call For The Defense Of Our Red Flag Waving In Peru 
> Reinforces Our Struggle."
And you forget the October 1994 issue, p.14 : "With These of Friends, Who 
Needs Enemies...Position of the RCP on Fujimori's Peace Talks" and the second
articles on January 1995, p. 10, p. 14-16. A clear anti-revisionist 
position of the MPP.
  
> It looks very supportive of CoRIM and Avakian to me, Gina.  It
> states:
> 
> >"On the 26th of March, 1995, the Revolutionary Internationalist
> >Movement (RIM) has finally issued a call for a struggle against
> >the handfill of opportunists who advocate capitulation.  The RIM
> >statement reaffirmed the defense of the Peoples's War in Peru and
> >support the Communist Party of Peru.  In this call RIM published
> >the conclusions of its "investigation" they have been carrying
> >out since Fujimori's hoax of "peace accords" on October 1993. 
> >Although there are visible ideological limitations and some 
> >erronous assumptions in its analysis, the RIM statements is a step
> >in the right direction."
That was the official position of the PCP Central Committee with
respect to that document. It is not an endorsement of the opportunists
of CO-RIM, but it is an acknowledgement of an important decision
of the RCP and Co-RIM of distancing themselves from the black gang of
capitulators abroad led by Enrique (the ideological mentor of Arce). 

> Okay, it does mention "limitations" and "assumptions" but it clearly
> states that Avakian/CoRIM's statement is a step in the right direction.
> And we know that this CoRIM statement says that the peace accords originated
> within the Party,
Correct, precisely that is the limitation The New Flag addressed in a
subsequent document of the Central Committee (General Political and 
Military Line) published in p. 26, the Interview of the New Flag with
Channel 4 of Lima (p. 41), the editorial of the same issue, and the 
May 1994 statement of the MPP, all of them have a clear
anti-capitulationist positions. Of course, since you follow dog Adolfo's line
not the PCP's, you believe everything your master speculates, remember 
Olaechea does not receive Party documents, he used to get them from us.

 and this is not true, it is Fujimori's lies, it is
> the same hoax, it DID NOT originate within the PCP. The CoRIM statement
> clearly says:
The issue is not where it originated, it may have been from the prison of
Yanamayo as the Party denounced, but the peace hoax was to benefit 
reaction and Yankee imperialism. What is clear is 
that the intelligence services designed and directed the whole scheme.
Obviuosly the analysis below is reactionary as we stated in The New Flag. 
> >"Yet today the greatest challenge the People's War faces does not 
> >come from such assaults by the enemy.  It comes from a line, or
> >strategy for the revolution, which emerged from within the ranks
> >of the PCP, calling for peace negotiations with the US-backed Peruvian
> >government."
> 
> CoRIM's statement is NOT a step in the right direction, it is just 
> a continuation of the HOAX.  New Flag here, after some earlier articles
> critical of Avakian in previous issues, is kissing back up to Avakian
> and CoRIM.
You are absolutely wrong. The CC has criticized Co-RIM and when they come
with the piece "Our Red Flag is...," it wasn't what the CC wished but a 
step in the right direction.

  By the time we met up with these guys, Gina, they were back
> in Avakian's camp big-time and they mislead us to the contrary.
You were in Avakian camp. You loved your Chairman Bob and thought he
was kidnapped or something by Lotta and his crow. If you have a grain
of honesty, you should admit it.
  Ask 
> Dan about the trip to Sweden.
This a crude speculation. This individual was never part of our
organization and we do not receive any instruction from Sweden or
anyplace else but from the leader of the revolutionary storm in the world,
the PCP. There are international directives, some public and most of them
internal.

What orders did they give NF?  To stop
> attacking Avakian and CoRIM.  Here in this article is the carrying out
> of those orders by New Flag.
Actually, The New Flag has an editorial board that decide the contents
of the publication. The influence of MPP comrades of other countries is
minimal, unless there are international campaigns, for example for the 
POWs.
 
> >"The differences the PCP maintains with RIM are clearly established in
> >the Party's documents.  For now it is sufficient to add that it refers
> >to the decisive question of what is Maoism, and why it is principally
> >Maoism.  The comprehension of this problem requires that we persist in
> >a major struggle to assimilate and understand the significance of the
> >principal contribution of President Gonzalo, which has established
> >Maoism as the new, third and superior stage of Marxism, especially
> >the significance of the superior stage, which allows us to understand
> >the development of Marxism and why Maoism is primary."
> 
> >"We must note that the "peace accords", in other words treason, are
> >shipwrecked everywhere, specially in the Third World and its condition
> >as a stormy area, as oppressed nations that are the bases of the world
> >proletarian revolution."
This was taken almost verbatin from Party documents published in The New 
Flag and others internal. The ideological differences with RIM are clearly 
expresed in the documents, that is clear even from the PCP international 
line. The documents  "Basis of Party of Unity" and "instructions" of 1994 
nad 1995 for example emphasize the same position. You should study and
follow PCP documents not the elocubrations of outsiders such as Borja and
Olaechea. Let me tell you that until recently we have had written requests 
>from Mr. Arce to send him Party documents after the Second Plenum, he and 
your master Olaechea were cut off long ago.

> I think this is just some fancy way of talking about the differences
> PCP has with RIM. It's not very clear what NF is saying.
> 
> This issue was a big disapointment to me when it came out, Gina.  The
> New Flaggers had told us it was going to have the Anti-avakian article
> we discussed with them and that funny picture of Avakian with a light
> bulb over his head.  But there was no article, NF was soft on Avakianism.
Our struggle does not focus on Avakian only, he is a small cake compared
with imperialism and reaction, our task is to build support for the 
People's War, popularize Maoism and facilitate the building MLM parties.

> The explanation was just that some comrades didn't want it in there.  
> Which "comrades" were those, I wonder.  Dan and You and I were all for
> its inclusion, was it the other phony MPP's that vetoed it?
Neither you, and others you mention were never part of the editorial board
of the New Flag. For your information, the MPP has branches in New Jersey,
Manhattan, Florida and California, it is the MPP submit the articles
to the editorial board of the magazine for publication.

  Those
> phony European MPP's that are Avakianists were directing the content of
> the New Flag.
The phony is dog Olaechea, you will see soon once he leaves you hanging
there w/o information and working solely for Avakian's Refuse and Resist.
 
> Okay, let me go on to the next issue put out by NF after we started 
> working with them.
You only distributed the magazine. You have not worked with us as a 
organization. There was a comrade assigned to talk to you to discuss 
distribution, that was it. I personally never met you. For you guys
followers of dog Adolfo, Quispe was daxtell and I was the muppet, shortly
therefater, daxtell was a fundaiser and Quispe was Marcelina...you are
so mix up, once Marcelina came up public in a couple of rallies, actually
addressed the crowd in NYC, then our critics said she has to be Quispe.

  Okay, again no articles at all, only a small
> weak comment in a reply to a letter from France on page 45/46.  It
> merely says that NF thinks RCP has had a shift to the right in the
> last 2-3 years.  Then there is a lie (typical) that RCP rank and file
> members had sent internal documents to the NF.  It all comes together
> with the moral of the story being that there is still hopes for RCP
> to "change line and be transformed into a potential revolutionary Party
> of the proletariat in the US".  Don't hold your breath waiting for that.

You are repeating what the counter-revolutionary MIM says about the Party.
Is the RCP as an organization a pro-imperialist and reactionary Party?
The PCP says no. It is part of the RIM in which the PCP is a member, we
should criticize the RCP line, yes, but they are not the Republican
Party, they are not the CPUSA or WW or MIM, it has problems of
opportunism and rightist tendencies we should criticize, however, its
basis, especially the youth brigade are honest supporters of the People's 
War, we should criticize the leadership nor its masses (for example Refuse
and Resist.)

> Well, that was educational.  I liked that, Gina, I'll dissect more of 
> the New Flag nonsense in coming days. Of course not everything in NF
> is crud.

  There used to be good articles and letters by Adolfo Olaechea,
> Luis Arce Borja, Godena, PSC/RI and PSC/Detroit, and El Diario.
Olaechea is dead politically with respect to the support to the People's War,
Godenas (I don't recall he ever wrote anything), you and your pal Tony 
(I think would be redundant to repeat who you are), El Diario doesn't 
publish anylonger since October 1994. Arce's EDI has no organic relationship
with the PCP, it reflects Arce's and dog Adolfo viewpoint.

  Those
> were the things we saw of value in it. Won't be much of interest anymore,
> I would imagine.   By the way, "Quispe" has posted
> that the new edition is out now.
Actually, I didn't posted. Maybe some other comrade did. It is out.
  I looked for it in the usual places
> but haven't seen it yet.  Is it really out or was that just another
> "editorial cartoons" of the New Flag Fujimori Agency?
Sorry for the editorial cartoon, there was some exageration by the part
of the comrades who prepared, since fortunately I never met you (I heard
about you from comrades in Queens.)

Luis.

> Jay Miles / Detroit
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