Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:26:51 +0200 (MET DST)
From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki)


Dave Brown wrote;

The real test of the absurdity of the LRCI position is that it logically 
excludes the reality of state capitalism from the transition process.  It 
therefore cannot direct its programme at class struggle under state 
capitalism. Its claims to programmatic correctness are baseless. If the 
state is bourgeois, how can political revolution be on the agenda?  If the 
social relations are still workers property what demands do workers put on 
the state? Do we call for the smashing of the state to defend workers 
property? Do we call on the state to defend workers property?  The sheer 
confusion that results from the LRCI's position disqualifies it from 
revolutionary leadership. Its method and theory are centrist and so is its 
practice.

Dave Brown.
Communist Workers Group of New Zealand.

Well, I think that Trotskyists in the present situation would be calling for 
a social revolution against the present regime while at the same time 
fighting against any kind of peaceful restoration of the Stalinist bureaucracy. 

This by defending the big state run factories against alll attacks of 
privatisation and the building of Soviets to defend their jobs and the 
factories. In order to do this we would want Soviets and deputees elected on 
the shop floor. 

We would also be calling for building of commmittees in every neigborhood to 
defend the social programs that exist in the Soviet Union against attack and 
to restore and make these programs even better.

We would want allso organisations in the red army. Linked to the defense of 
the popular organs of the working class. No loyalty to Capitalists ministers 
or Stalinist ministers. Loyality to the organs of workers power and any 
attacks from our borders.

We would need slogans like;

Down with the Capitalist ministers!

No to the Stalinist Ministers!

For Workers Revolution.

We would want to extend these forms to all the republics in the former 
Soviet Union.
Only the Factory Soviets and Red army Soviets and Committees that defend the 
Social programs in the neigborhoods being the only organs of power we recognise.

At the same time linked to the neccessity of building a new communist 
International 
all over the world to fight for the dictatorship of the Proletariat.

This does not mean in the present situation that Trotskyists are sectarian. 
We would be for tactical alliances with the Stalinists against any attacks 
>from the capitalists. This does not mean that we throw away are right to 
fight independently for a program of workers revolution. It also could mean 
military tactical operations with Stainists against a right wing facist coup 
are attacks from the bourgeois state. But we would be organisationally 
independent and definitely not liquidate our fighting and political 
agitation from our own organisation.

We would be fore legal forms of work where possible but also from the 
beginning be prepared to go underground both from the capitalist and 
facists, but also the Stalinist organisations..

I will stop their now. But I think that these are the things we should be 
talindg about on this list if we are going to talk Russia.

But also the National Question in the new situation. My general feelings at 
this point is not the general Leninist view of the right to 
self-determination but this right can be claimed and respected by the 
popular organs of the masses ie soviets!

However as Trotskyists we think that a new Soviet Union based on real 
workers power and real Soviets should have no borders. We fight for workers 
revolution though out the former Soviet Union.

Only by building Trotskyist Party or parties in the former Soviet Union can 
garantee that we will never go back to the old and we will thrown down and 
crush the new capitalist that have taken power.

malecki







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