Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 17:57:02 +0200 (MET DST)
From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki)
Subject: Re: Voting. Was Air your views... godena's support for election 



>
>Louis: I am deeply pleased with the presence of Jim Kane, Richard Bos and
>Nick Gordon on the list and look forward to their exchange of views. I
>feel I will learn an immense amount about British politics out of this.
>The only thing I am dead-set opposed to on this list is stupidity, not
>Maoism or Trotskyism, etc. The IQ level of the list just shot up about 100
>points with Malecki's absence.

Well Louis,

I,m back from little Da Nang and well, except for a broken hand and cast. 
But I noticed that your level for IQ,s is determined by who is soft on the 
Cuban Revolution. Perhaps you can even suck some people in to believing all 
the mumbo jumbo mass solutions of real proletarian leaders like Che.

But for Trotskyists your defense of the masses in motion, in fact your 
defense of the castroite leadership or the Sandinistas and in fact the total 
isolation of Cuba today and the defeat of the revolutionary situation in 
Nicarugua which these leaderships are responsible for! Tells much more about 
the IQ and political trajectory of Louis the former SWPer and now moving 
fast to the right with the help of the New York Library.

By the way i noticed you were whining about "Bougainville". Well, I am 
interested in Bougainville as well as a lot of other places in the world. So 
for information about this real struggle with real people dying in a fight 
for independence from both Papua Nya Guniua and its Australian Imperialist 
backers who own the mines on the island and can not open them because the 
islanders with arms in hand have successfully defeated all attempts to 
reopen the mines. Despite this real struggle i oppose your attempts to block 
their posts to the list.

They are just as useful as the numerous other posts involving real struggles 
with real people. So climb out of that dusty old university library and 
clean some of the old revisionist cobwebs out of your head. Despite your 
intensive defense of the old good times in Nicarugua yesterday and Che who 
is dead in Bolivia because of his fundementally incorrect line of replacing 
class struggle with gurreilla warfare, by the way this theory is in direct 
contradiction to marxism along with the PCP,s pick up the gun rhetoric and 
two stage theory which only can lead the working class in Latin America down 
a bankrupt road too new defeats.. OK..

Or why not take up some of the burning issues like the Russian question, 
Germany, 
mass unemployment, Welfare, or the Vanguard party. No, things like this 
threaten the existence of the professional Menshevik Soldarity organisations 
which dominated the left the last twenty years. We are facing and entirely 
new epoch, after the downfall and death of Stalinism and the right wing leap 
by the Social Democracy. And you my friend just go on and on with your anti 
party, anti Lenininist, anti Trotskyist whining.

In fact once again the great leaders of the October Epoch and revolutionary 
leadership in marching towards the conquest of power comes to the fore. What 
has died is the counter revolutionary Stalinist garbage of building 
"Socialism" in one country. One again the tactics and programs of Lenin and 
Trotsky come to the fore against alll those who tried dragging them through 
the mud and miserable failure. 

In fact this is a time of bringing forth once again these great policies and 
tactics that have been buried by years of Stalinist and Menshevik garbage. 
The danger today is not our list if intellectual Mensheviks in the coming 
period. In fact more danger is posed by the ultra left positions of NEil and 
the anarachists! Because they have no tactics at all in a period of rising 
class struggle. 

And i do not think that the attempts by our Russian friend of building anti 
facists fronts in this period will either be a danger. In fact the workers 
quite clearly are beginning to lose illusions not only in the popular fronts 
but traditional labor parties.
By the way, thanks for the suggestion about Christmas. However the people on 
this list will hardly defend Malecki (the Trotskyist) against inperialism. 
In fact their are a number of people on this list who have the Stalinist 
ideology of "icepicks" against the left opposition on this list.Where others 
are just synical Mensheviks who couldn,t even defend a mother on welfare 
because of her Lumpen background.

So the real danger is the "direct action" people who do not understand the 
neccessity of building a vanguard party based on revolutionary tactics.

Warm Regards
malecki

PS: A question to Nick who defends the Greek Trotskyists.. Are you a 
supporter of the United Secretariat? Because the post war turns certainly 
had and effect on the deaths of some of the cadre of the FI..





     --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---