Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 18:10:56 +0100 From: hariette-AT-easynet.co.uk (hariette spierings) Subject: Welcome back "Mother Courage" malecki - roll out the firing squad! >> Adolfo > >Could you clarify this and other statements you made in this article? >Perhaps offer a few examples where you think this has happened. > >A large segment of the population partipates in, even depends on, the >"underground" economy, and a good number end up in prison. Some do this >out of necessity, others as an alternative to the drudgery of wage labor. >Do you consider these people your enemy? Morally bad? If so, do you think >their moral character is innate, that it will persist under the changed >material conditions of the proletarian dictatorship? as your comment about >"such conduct will not be tolerated" seems to imply. > >And what about "even more stringent punishments"? Do you think prisons >and other forms of punishment, as they currently exist throughout the >world, are too humane? > > >Paul >pcg-AT-panix.com > I think you are mis-reading what I said, Paul. The question is not to see such people as enemies or friends, but to see their class position as distinct to that of the proletariat - the only consistent revolutionary class. The lumpen elements - because that is what you are describing - are an inevitable product of capitalist relations. That much we agree. The question is how the "Left" has come to envelop them with an aura of "heroism"? How the lumpen is seeing, in some quarters, as the "revolutionary class". How the education of the proletariat - the duty of marxists - is seen by some people as education on the "ways of the lumpen" and the "values of the lumpen". The lumpen, as Lenin long ago pointed out, can be won over to the revolutionary cause, and some INDIVIDUALS can indeed play a role and even transform themselves into proletarian fighters precisely by repudiating their own past. Howver, as a class (or section of the population) they are a most inestable element - precisely due to their petty bourgeois outlook - which the proletarian dictatorship must certainly guard against letting get hold of the tiller of the state or the Party at ALL times, and moreover after the seizure of power. It is also well know that the ideology which sustains this "glamourourisation" of criminal life as some sort of "heroic anti-capitalist" struggle is very much rooted in the liberal philistinism of the petty bourgeois mentality. That as far as the revolutionary organisation is concerned, the unchecked presence of such elements contributes to liberalism and to the "we are of the left for better or worse" mentality, putting in the same sack the proletariat and the lumpen, the genuine Marxists and the maleckis. Moreover, such opportunism, as with all opportunism, "facilitates the tasks of the Zubatovs" in lenin's own words. In order that such elements from the lumpen who show willingness to work for the revolutionary cause do not become "enemies" of the proletariat and can be brought into the revolutionary camp with any degree of confidence, the strictest vigilance is necessary, and particularly, to fight against the liberalism of those promoting the view that it is enough to be in a bourgeois jail, no matter for what reason, to be a "heroic figure". That corresponds well to social-democratic "Robin Hood" type of views, but not to those of real and serious marxist revolutionaries such as Lenin. Consider Lenin's words: "......it is not difficult to see that during every transition >from capitalism to socialism, dictatorship is necessary for two main reasons, or along two main channels. Firstly, capitalism cannot be defeated and erradicated without the ruthless suppression of the resistance of the exploiters, who cannot at once be deprived of their wealth, of their advantages of organisation and knowledge, and consequently for a fairly long period will inevitably try to overthrow the hated rule of the poor; SECONDLY, every grat revolution, and a socialist revolution in particular even if there is no external war, is inconceivable without internal war, i.e. civil war, which is even more devastating than external war, and involves thousands and millions of cases of wavering and desertion from one side to another, implies a state of extreme indefiniteness, lack of equilibrium and chaos. AND OF COURSE, ALL THE ELEMENTS OF DISINTEGRATION of the old society, which are inevitably very numerous and connected mainly with the petty bourgeoisie (because it is the petty-bourgeosie that every war and every crisis ruins and destroys first), are bound to "reveal themselves" during such a profound revolution. AND THIS ELEMENTS OF DESINTEGRATION cannot "reveal themselves" otherwise than in an increase of CRIME, HOOLIGANISM, CORRUPTION, PROFITEERING AND OUTRAGES OF EVERY KIND. To put this down requires time and AND REQUIRES AN IRON HAND". And Lenin continues, describing the true proletarian policy AGAINST everything that the maleckis of this world stand for (CRIME, HOOLIGANISM, CORRUPTION, PROFITEERING, AND OUTRAGES OF EVERY KIND) in this lapidary fashion: "There has not been a single great revolution in history in which the people did not instinctively realise this and did not show a SALUTARY FIRMNESS by SHOOTING THIEVES ON THE SPOT. The misfortune of previous revolutions was that the revolutionary enthusiasm of the people, which sustained them in their state of tension and gave them the strenght to SUPPRESS RUTHLESSLY the ELEMENTS OF DESINTEGRATION, did not last long. The social, i.e. the class, reason for this inestability of the revolutionary enthusiasm of the people was the weakness of the proletariat, which ALONE is able (If it is sufficiently numerous, CLASS CONSCIOUS AND DISCIPLINED) to win over to its side the MAJORITY of the working and exploited people (the MAJORITY of the poor, to speak more simply and popularly) and retain power sufficiently long to suppress completely all the exploiters AS WELL AS ALL THE ELEMENTS OF DISINTEGRATION" Quotes are from V.I. Lenin "The Immediate Tasks of the Soviet Government" (Collected Works, Vol 27, page 200) That is what I meant, and examples of these are "tens of thousands and even millions" in Lenin's own words. What I mean is that without exposing that the claims to "Leninism" of the maleckis's are the claims of the ELEMENTS OF DISINTEGRATION which Leninism would have RUTHLESSLY SUPPRESSED, Marxist here are only sucking their thumbs and exposing their own liberalism! Adolfo Olaechea --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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