Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 08:27:18 +0200 (MET DST)
From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki)
Subject: Re: malecki's megalomania VS. Socialism


Neil writes;
>
> Robert Malecki attacks those he thinks are to the right of him but says he
>thinks the main danger today  in the marxist trends is being "ultra left!!
> Robert , are you a Trotskyist  and a Pot-skyist now?  The Spart dope you have
>inhaled for years is frying your brain. Look at the motion in  what remains of
>the "old movement", most are taking up jogging, new age spiritualism 
,Clintonite
>neo- liberalism , seat-belt laws and capitalist state sponsored gun 
control. And
>you think "ultra leftism ' is  the great danger?
>How absurd.

I intend to agree with you about the decline of the so called "left". 
However the ultra leftism of Neil, the anarchists, i think also Luis Quispe 
is also getting into some of this stuff, is in fact a real danger. However 
worth argueing because these people i think actually want to make a 
revolution unlike Aldolfo or Louis!

In Neil,s case he applies right wing state capitalist ideology to the 
tactics of ultra left communists. Strange mixture. In fact the tactics for 
Neil are no tactics at all! Trade unions should be smashed, never any 
electoral support to reformists and centrists parties, build the struggle 
independently outside of and against everything and all is the bottom line 
of Neil and his group.

For the Anarchists, at least the leftwing anarchists it is much of the same.

For Quispe, his recent articles on "elections" which puts any kind of 
participation in the electoral process outside of communist tactics is also 
and ultra left tactic. Naturally in Luis,s case it is linked to the pick up 
the gun rgetoric in Peru as the only viable alternative in the future. In 
fact, exactly the opposite is the case. Mao would have never succeeded if 
not the International bourgeoisie had destroyed a good part of the 
imperialist Europe and Japan opening the way for a peasant red army led by 
Mao to finally take power in China. And i doubt that any victory in Peru is 
possible without huge support in the United states and against imperialist 
support to the Fujimora regime linked to workers revolutions throughout 
Latin America led by Trotskyist parties..

Also in the future armed struggle in the third world will depend on what 
happens in the industrial countries. In fact victory for these struggles 
depends on it..And not in any of the pipedreams of the local maoists.. 


>
>But new younger activists and workers it is true are coming to the fore slowly
>again
>and want real change not cosmetic change and derailing  ,and  this is quite
>positive for the most part. And many of them are rightly skeptical of the
>traditional trotskyist, social democrat, stalinist  poison that helped bury the
>old socialist /workers movements.

Yes there are new and younger elements coming along who question the old 
leaderships, especially the Social democratic and former Stalinist 
leaderships. This is good. But to make the same mistakes as the ultra lefts 
made in early history is hardly going to solve their problems. In fact only 
serious organising around the TP and the history of the left opposition can 
show a way forward. Because most of what the ultra lefts in all the variants 
talk about, has been tried and failed miserably..


>The likes of politically rancid  bankrupt trends, such as your neo-spart type
>will have a tougher time convincing these that supporting state capitalism as
>'workers states"
>or bourgeois trade unionism as a fighting workers vanguard, or capitalist
>IMF/world bank "national  liberation' as a proletarian programme in this epoch.
>The track record speaks for itself.

Yes Neil is riding on a wave of anti union and anti Stalinist propaganda 
which mainly is flamed by bourgeois journalists in making the claim that it 
just doesn,t work. But to block with the right as the state caps do against 
the reformists and the centrists but also the revolutionary Trotskyists is 
criminal and playing into the hands of counter-revolution. Despite the 
"left" rhetoric..

>
>As for your neo-Spart elitist  Dictatorship OVER the Proletariat  with a
>handfull of
>Maleckis shouting "Save yourselves heathen masses thru trotsky's transitional
>programme  of 1938' or "One can only achieve (revolutionary) salvation but
>through
> lord and savior trotsky", the new masses in motion will only laugh. But the
>main
>danger for them is that they will laugh themselves to death!

You are beginning to sound like Louis here Neil! Ultimitely Louis does it 
>from his Menshevik trajectory and you are doing it in the name of state 
capitalism and mindless ultra left activism. In fact the Trotskyist current, 
its ideas. and program have been around for a while and that is the reason 
that this list goes berserk every time Trotskyists use this tool in tearing 
apart their bankrupt politics and ideologies which are hardly new but a 
rehash in a deformed way of all the old arguements.

>Communists should be positing a programme of intervention in the class motions
>workers building their  own mass actions, a new party of struggle,  workers
>control, revolution  and communism. Malecki  thinks all that is just
>'ultra-left' and 'anarchism'.

Communists should be fighting for the TP and the tactics of the first four 
congresses of the Third International and the founding documements of the 
Fourth International. 
All of the above are involved plus lots of other tactics neccessary for 
fighting for the dictatorship of the Proletariat. And these are in fact 
counterposed to the Social Democrats, Stalinists, Maoists, Anarchists and 
State capitalists ideologies which have been tested in battle and failed 
miserably. In fact there is hardly anything new under the sun.

malecki

PS: Recently Hugh asked our Turkish leftists what there position is on 
events in Crete. This can also be posed to our Peruvian Maoists in the 
border conflicts with Equador for example. I think that both of these 
subjects are worth a comment by the parties who so clearly claim to be the 
leading representatives of the "left" in these countries. So how about 
presenting to the list your views on these
potential hotspots which can led to tens of thousands if not more workers 
getting slaughtered once again..




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