From: Luis Quispe <lquispe-AT-blythe.org>
Subject: Re: PERU: Revolution & Peasant Rondas (I)
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 01:32:50 -0400 (EDT)


Zeynep, very smart comment. If you raise up good political points that's 
what it counts. We don't care your attitude toward Luis, we are not
looking for friendship with anyone. You see, we are not nice with
reactionaries and we don't expect they be nice with us. We cannot love
our enemies nor the evils of society, our purpose is to eliminate
each other. A truthful love among people will take place only when
social clases are eliminated in the world. In the meantime, it is class
struggle what it rules. You are sharp and smart, keep up the struggle.
Marcelina.
 
> Let me take this opportunity to express a few thoughts about such postings.
> I think we have to separate a the issues here. 
> 
> While everyone on this list knows my attitude towards Quispe & Co., but when
> they post articles like that, I find it beneficial. True, they are suitable
> not for a discussion list, but a news mailing group in line with Rahul's
> proposal, which is now possible under the Spoons perestroika.
> 
> As for interpreting such articles: Part of the problem is the pressure
> groups like PCP feel due to all the misinformation directed at them. A key
> part of the "low intensity warfare" strategy is convincing the people that
> the revolutionary group is defeated, is weak, won't ever make it, etc. There
> are a few counter-approaches to this. 
> 
> The articles as the one posted by Quispe & Co. claim the opposite. The
> struggle is unstoppable, there are no set-backs, nothing wrong has been
> done, etc. I think that internally, they are probably analyzing and
> wondering over what may have been wrong moves, etc. Otherwise, they'd have
> been crushed long ago, no movement can advance without learning. The recent
> welcome manifestations of increased PCP activity suggests a rebound. If
> there was a proper international revolutionary coordination and a proper way
> of countering imperialist propaganda, PCP would find it much easier to enter
> a more constructive dialogue with other groups, including those providing
> critical support. Currently, any admission to a weakness or an error is
> bound to be turned and twisted by the imperialists and published widely. Any
> news of advances, improvements, etc. will be killed by silence.  
> 
> A second approach is the one taken up by the EZLN - it is honest
> self-criticism, but it borders on adopting a language deliberately inviting
> constant pity, as a way of obtaining solidarity. That also corresponds to a
> pretty objective situation, the EZLN is militarily cornered, and without the
> international attention and solidarity, they'd stand much less a chance. The
> positive side to their approach is their attempt to use the sympathy they
> invoked as a way of mobilizing a bigger, coordinated movement against
> neo-liberalism.
> 
> A third approach, I've seen in Turkey is owning up to mistakes in a much
> more balanced fashion. The larger groups own up every action carried out,
> even if later they regret it, or if it was carried out under the initiative
> of a local group without central approval. I think the IRA also has such an
> approach. Sometimes, self-criticism and apologies are issued by the
> revolutionary groups if they believe that they have acted in a wrong manner.
> The bigger the group, the more responsible an attitude towards the mistakes.
> 
> Sum up, I believe that an international paper, with real news and analysis,
> not over-"propaganda" would take much pressure of many groups in regards for
> the need to exaggrate. A Turkish phrase, "Objective subjectivity" or "Taking
> Sides Objectively" fits well. We must respect the facts and resist the
> tendency to paint dreamy pictures, not just for ethical reasons, because
> "conjuring the enemy away in imagination" does not conjure them away in real
> life.
> 
> Zeynep
> 
> >Subject: 
> >
> >On Thu, 22 Aug 1996, Luis Quispe wrote:
> >
> >>          A CIA NEST OF COUNTERINSURGENCY PROPAGANDA.
> >>      ANATOMY OF THE INSTITUTE OF PERUVIAN STUDIES (IEP).
> >>                Part 1 of a series of 2 articles.
> >> 
> >
> >Louis: Thank god we won't be treated to any more of this. By the way,
> >Quispe, if we ever meet up in person (NY is a small place), I'd like you
> >to see you make a jew-baiting remark to my face. What the fuck gave
> >you the nerve to call me a "zionist" on a Marxism list. You might as well
> >have called me a kike and gotten straight to the heart of the matter. I
> >have worked politically with Palestinians in NY for over 10 years now and
> >I resented your racist remarks completely.
> >
> 
> 
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