Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 08:27:39 +0200 (MET DST)
From: malecki-AT-algonet.se (Robert Malecki)
Subject: Part 4!


Look why someone wants me off a Marxism list!

At present their is a majority of ivory  tower people, 
Liberals,Mensheviks,and Stalinists who are trying to gut the public 
"unmoderated forum" called M1 by creating moderated lists where they 
themselves will be the moderaters.

Some of the reasons claimed by the above in wanting Malecki off the list is;

He compares "cockroaches" to poor and working class people by calling his 
E-zine for poor and working class people "Cockroach".

He is a Trotskyist.

His poor and working class background (being lumpen and in exile) means his 
spelling and grammar does not pass for their Marxist Standards.

And above all some of the material he has sent to the Marxist list..And 
their are others who are named in the present attempts to purge the list at 
Jefferson village for being abusive and disruptive to the present majority 
who are trying to moderate marxism and the discussion thereof...

I'm posting this to various newsgroups, to inform as many as
possible of some dealings which I hope there will be reactions 
against, also from people who know nothing further about the 
background involved. 

Along with some of the articles which have been condemned by these "marxists"..

It's a rather open attack against someone's - in this case, mine - 
right to air his views, and if there are people out there who're
prepared to take a little action in this case, I'd appreciate it.

In that case, send your comments to one of the following
moderators of the Jefferson Village Virginia Marxism list
(run bu the Spoon Collective):

marxism-AT-jefferson.village.virginia.edu

or self proclaimed Menshevik moderator

 Louis N Proyect <lnp3-AT-columbia.edu>

Protest the closing of the public and unmoderated list M1...
 
Warm Regards
Robert Malecki

Now to some of the articles which these "marxists" call "disruption", "lumpen",
or "Trotskyist".. I am sending four articles in seperate posts as examples 
of my "lumpen" and "disruptive" style..

"Marxism" at Jefferson Village "reorganises!"

Well now it is official. The spoon at Jefferson village has decided to 
reorganise the list and discussion. Naturally, like class struggle, all 
things change. The actors move in different directions and the battles 
draw lines even here in cyberspace.

Despite the rosy picture presented by spoon as "reorganisation" one must 
say that the reorganisation is something that is connected to the history 
of M1 and M2 lists.

The people involved, at least those who have been here for a while, is the 
dynamic force in this new reorientation. These people including myself is 
the human material with all of its various ideological and living experience 
in interaction which has brought about the present state of things.

The remarkable think about this process is how the cyberspace is being used 
to enforce all of these political and personal *real* life experiences. 
Thus trying to turn this media into deviding up this human material into 
various files where they can survive in peaceful bliss without being 
contaminated by a virus from the other rich political and personal 
backgrounds of those who claim to be "marxist" orientated. A family of 
revolutionaries that can exist, at least in cyberspace, in seperate 
little rooms where they feel comfortable.

Sort of like packing lollipops in individual or group plastic bags to keep 
them sterile for the uninformed consumer...Even better would be the history 
of the "new" leftwhich has led a gruopie existence especially amongst 
intellectual circles for a rather long time. 

It appears that the spoon is looking for organisational and moderation 
forms to strenghen this process of groupie existence of the left on 
Internet. In other words a little fack or room for each member or family 
to move into and be happy with their convictions.

How quaint! I think that it is a very logical outcome of the last months 
of struggle. Especially amongst the intellectuals on this list whos politics 
is connected to presenting their views to small groups of polite people who 
don,t have to worry about where the next meal is coming from or have been 
unemployed for months or years.

However i defend free speech and even the right to live in isolation and 
groupie existence even for those that prefer this alternative. However i 
do intend to subscribe to all of the new groups and try to follow the rules 
in order to make life uncomfortable for my political opponents. Or will i 
be prevented from doing this by my political opponents? Thus proving;

That  the present "reorganisation" is not more then a physical expression 
of the present groupie and individualist life that our "marxists" on this 
list appear to prefer in private little rooms rather then and open forum 
where ideas can clash.

Because it is quite clear there are certain individuals that are trying to 
use this reorganisation as a tool to gag people from participating in the 
debate. Naturally i defend the right of people to discuss in anyway they 
want to the questions facing those who claim to be "marxist"..

However to organise the discussion along the sectarian and groupie 
principals that the left has so long been doing in real life and raising 
it to a principle under the guise of "reorganisation" would be criminal. 
In fact, only a broad and open discussion with all political tendencies 
with people from all walks of life can show the way forward.

We have nothing to lose but our chains and the chains that those who will 
gag a free and open discussion will put on us under the guise of moderation 
and reorganisation. The best thing that can happen to people is to be 
confronted with living ideas and politics is through and open clash on 
and open forum where moderation is directed only against facist 
provacateurs and *real* cops!

Those who need to hide behind closed and moderated doors have something 
to hide or are afraid that there politics can not stand up to open and 
real confrontation are the only ones who gain by building walls around 
themselves with this new orientation by the spoon. This i,m afraid, despite 
all the rhetoric, is the underlying reason for the new reorganisation of the 
lists.

Warm Regards
malecki

I am posting this to the newsgroups and it will go in a future number of 
cockroach..


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