Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 19:53:56 -0600
From: Hans Ehrbar <ehrbar-AT-marx.econ.utah.edu>
Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: Restructuring of Spoon marxism space



Rakesh, apparently without knowing whose proposal it was, Jerry Levy
has inquired about your proposal.  Do you want me to put him in touch
with you?  I would very much be in favor of discussing the parallels
with PEN-L and OPE-L etc.  I simply was under the assumption that
these lists were beyond our reach.  If we can start an official
cooperation that would be great.  But I understand that Jerry can be
an extremely difficult character.  What do you think?

Hans E.

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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 12:57:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gerald Levy <glevy-AT-pratt.edu>
Subject: Re: Second Status Report
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> Here is a listing of these additional proposals, which also includes
> some proposals generated by members of the spoon collective itself:
  <snip> 
>   * marxist political economy
>   * a list about Marx's Capital --- interpretations, critiques, 
>     developments <snip>

Hans:

Could you please send me a copy of the proposals for the above two 
potential lists (since the proposals have not been posted on marxism2 or 
marxism-news)? 

Regards,

Jerry


Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 14:47:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Gerald Levy <glevy-AT-pratt.edu>
Subject: Re: Second Status Report
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> Here is a listing of these additional proposals, which also includes
> some proposals generated by members of the spoon collective itself:
  <snip>
>   * marxist political economy
>   * a list about Marx's Capital --- interpretations, critiques,
>     developments <snip>

Hans:

Some follow-up comments and questions:

(1) Regarding the second of the above, I assume that it would be list on
    *reading* Capital (since if it were anything other than the above, it
    would be repetitive of what the mpe list would discuss). Is that
    correct?

(2) If it would be a list that would read Capital, I would suggest several
    things:

    (a) that the list be limited in terms of a maximum number of
        participants (for reasons that any student or instructor knows
        well);

    (b) that it be agreed that new participants couldn't join after a
        certain point of the "semester" (i.e. they would have to wait for
        the next "course"). I think this is valuable since "new"
        participants who join mid-discussion would be (non-maliciously)
        disruptive for the group.

    (c) the schedule would have to be posted on other lists well in
        advance of the start of the reading and that possible
        participants be told that they will likely have  to invest a
        substantial part of their time in order to read Capital, follow
        the discussion, and participate.

    (d) if the object would be to read the three volumes together (as
        opposed to just reading VI), then anything less than a year is
        unrealistic. Two years would be a preferable timetable, IMHO. I do
        know that there is a closed list on reading Capital in Japanese
        that is planning to - hopefully -  work through the 3 volumes in
        4 years.


     (e) moderating such a list would be a *big* job. I would suggest
         several co-moderators.

     (f) if my assumption above is correct about systematically working
         through Capital, I believe I know a number of people who might be
         willing to lead the discussion on a particular chapter (by
         writing summaries ... making suggestions for secondary
         readings. ... offering a paper. ... or asking questions.). I
         think there might be some on OPE-L who would be willing to
         participate in that way.

(3) Regarding the possible  mpe list, you are aware that there a number of
other lists that are related (PEN-L, OPE-L, CAP-L, EM-L). If there is to
be another mpe list, then I think that its difference from the above lists
should be specified.  I am not either in favor of or opposed to this
proposal at this time, but I would like to hear more about it from its
proposer.

If you wish, you may forward this to marxism-administration.

Take care (as Jon is fond of saying).

Regards,

Jerry


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