From: Carrol Cox <cbcox-AT-rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Are Jesus, Buddha & Company Enemies of the People? Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 15:27:17 -0500 (CDT) Comrades, In this battle over religion, I tend *mostly* towards Comrade Louis G's emphasis--but it seems to me all concerned are to an extent letting rhetoric overcome thought. Principle: Religion is false, and *most* of the time religious belief has a negative impact on the consciousness of *most* believers. The weaker the power of religion, the better off (other things being equal, which they never are) the working class is. BUT I don't think it was the issue of principle which first generated this thread. The issues were tactical (perhaps strategic), not of principle. I couldn't care less what "side" Jesus, Buddha, & Co. were on--they're all (thank goodness) dead. But I do want to have on the workers's side all those workers who still hold to this or that religious fantasy, and human life (as well as bourgeois life) is messy enough (contradictory enough) so that this is indeed possible--most famously so of course in Nicaragua and El Salvador, but also elsewhere. Without my friends from the Newman Center here it would have been very difficult to build Central American support work during the 80s. And that political group was able to organize around the Newman Center because Father Kelly who until he was transferred a few years ago had very progressive political views, and in fact built almost a center of resistance within the local Catholic Church by turning the Newman Center (which in principle was only a *student* center at ISU) into a virtual separate parish or community. When the reactionary asshole of a Bishop from Peoria replaced him (exiling him to a dinky little central Illinois town where he has no one to talk to), the replacement firmly turned it back in to strictly a campus religious center. I have not yet located a fine Lenin quote. Back in 1905 Trotsky wrote that "There is no room for a second GeorgeG Gapon." (Irving Howe, ed., Basic Writings of Leon Trotsky, page 66) Lenin replied in another newspaper or pamphlet (this is from rough memory) that without hundreds or thousands of more Father Gapons there would be no revolution. This did not indicate a disagreement between Trotsky and Lenin in reference to religion; it was a political (tactical and strategic) difference. That is what we need to debate. (MIM should like this) As Mao pointed out, we need to try to turn a bad thing into a good thing. There is no doubt that religion is a bad thing. We need to debate how to turn it into a good thing for our purposes. Comradely, Carrol --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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