Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 07:31:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rich Tietjens <starship-AT-3rdplanet.com>
Subject: Re: Discussing revolutionary regroupment. Joint statement by the LTT and the LCMRCI 


Are you people out of your fucking minds?  I spent 23 years of my life
actively fighting (with very powerful and deadly weapons) against Marxism
and Leninism - why in Hell would I do anything to help you now?

Please do 2 things immediately:

(1) Take me off your mailing list, so I don't have to complain to your
postmaster about you harassing me.

(2) Go choke on a chicken bone.  Don't you get it?  You had control of one
of the three most powerful countries in the world for 50 years and proved
beyond a shadow of a doubrt that Marx's theories DON'T WORK!

On Thu, 29 Aug 1996, LCMRCI wrote:

> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 96 10:38:11 PDT
> From: LCMRCI <global-AT-uk.pi.net>
> To: IS-L-AT-felix.dircon.co.uk, marxchat-AT-stud.unit.no,
>     marxism-AT-jefferson.village.Virginia.EDU
> Subject: Discussing revolutionary regroupment. Joint statement by the LTT and the LCMRCI
>
> DISCUSSING REVOLUTIONARY REGROUPMENT
> Joint statement by the LTT and the LCMRCI
>
> The international Leninist Trotskyist Tendency is composed of groups in
> Belgium, Canada, Germany, Great Britain, Jamaica, South Africa and Sri
> Lanka. The Liaison Committee of Militants for a Revolutionary Communist
> International is composed of groups from Bolivia, Europe, New Zealand and
> Peru. 
>
> 1. On August, a meeting took place in London between representatives of the
> Leninist-Trotskyist Tendency (LTT) and the Liaison Committee of Militants
> for a Revolutionary Communist International (LCMRCI). The discussion was
> focused on the following points:
> * The nature of the period
> * Bosnia and the national question
> * Revolutionary regroupment
> 2. Both tendencies agreed that the present period is characterised by a
> reactionary neo-liberal offensive which has been developing unevenly
> throughout the imperialist and the semi-colonial world. Former dictatorships
> in Latin America, Africa and South-East Asia have been replaced by the
> facade of democracy, behind which the living standards, rights and
> organisations of the working class have been under sustained assault.
> Meanwhile, the collapse of Stalinism in 1989-91 resulted in =91democratic=92
> counter-revolutions (as distinct from militarist or fascist
> counter-revolutions) in eastern Europe and the ex-Soviet Union. From the
> point at which these states stopped defending  post-capitalist property
> relations in practice, they ceased to be workers=92 states. Internationally,
> the working class has suffered a chain of setbacks as its Stalinist, social
> democratic and nationalist leaderships have capitulated to the policies of
> neo-liberalism, but overall it has not suffered bloody defeats on the scale
> of the 1930s, and in a number of countries (including France, Germany,
> Bolivia and Brazil) it has shown a renewed fighting capacity.
> 3. On the war in Bosnia, there were significant differences between the two
> tendencies. The LTT defended the existence of a multi-ethnic Bosnia as the
> only realisable form of self-determination and as the only progressive
> solution to the national question in Bosnia, without giving any political
> support to the Izetbegovic government. It defended the Bosnian Muslims
> against the weight of  ethnic cleansing directed against them, and until
> they were safe from extermination, while opposing the creation of the
> Muslim-Croat Federation and the subsequent ethnic cleansing of the Krajina
> Serbs. 
> The LCMRCI considered that throughout the inter-ethnic conflict, and
> especially since the creation of the US-backed Croat-Muslim Federation in
> 1994, it was clear that every side had reactionary aims. They wanted to
> destroy the multi-national degenerated workers=92 state and create
> ethnically-cleansed bourgeois states. The main task was to unite workers of
> every ethnic group against imperialism. Both tendencies opposed all
> imperialist attacks on the Bosnian Serbs, defending them despite their
> reactionary chauvinist leadership, and were for the defeat and expulsion of
> Nato/UN forces. Both were in favour of multi-ethnic workers=92 councils and
> militias, the construction of a Trotskyist internationalist party, a
> proletarian revolution to overthrow the pro-capitalist regimes in Zagreb,
> Belgrade, Pale and Sarajevo, and the creation of a multi-national socialist
> federation in the region.
>
> 4. On more general issues surrounding the national question, the LCMRCI
> defended Marx and  Engels=92 theory of the so-called =91non-historic=92 peoples of
> eastern Europe, while the LTT considered this was wrong and was in broad
> agreement with the positions outlined by Roman Rosdolsky in his book =91Engels
> and the =91=91Nonhistoric=92=92 Peoples: The National Question in the Revolution of
> 1848=92.
>
> 5. On regroupment, the two tendencies agreed that it is necessary to attempt
> a discussion and regroupment process with all forces that are in favour of a
> Leninist-Trotskyist international  opposed to centrism. With a view to
> narrowing the differences between the LCMRCI and the LTT, it was agreed to
> carry out common work in Britain wherever possible and to establish a
> framework for a written international discussion.
>
> August, 1996
>
>
>
>



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