Date: 03 Sep 96 00:02:10 EDT
From: neil <74742.1651-AT-compuserve.com>
Subject: Karl C's muddle--Hegel or Engels?


dear friends,

Karl Carlile is confusing Hegelian views with Engels's when he asserted that
Engels believed in God.

Karl C. I think is distorting materialist dialectics and turning it back to
Hegelian dialectics which is transcendental!

Engels dealt with immanent laws of evolution which are natural. These laws were
based on material processes in nature. These laws are not laws that are OUTSIDE
or BEYOND nature but INSIDE nature.

Hence NOT being outside nature, they are not in any way supernatural , divine or
transcendental but in fact are material laws and processes and there is nothing
spiritual about them!


C. Roman & Neil



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