Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 22:03:13 +0200 From: Jorn Andersen <jorn.andersen-AT-vip.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: Hard core/soft core At 07:28 16-09-96 +0200, Robert Malecki wrote: >gary, > >Since when is questioning the tactic of starving yourself to death pouring >shit on Turkish Hunger strikers? Futhermore what exactly do you mean about >the IRA. I'll let Gary and Malecki sort that out, but then he continues: >But coming from a Stalinist who seees the Social democracy as the >main reason for facism i doubt if i could get and intelligent answer. Robert, I think you should know better than calling Gary a stalinist, which he is not - if I were him, I would take it as an insult. Being soft on stalinism (or rather stalinists) is not the same as being a stalinist :-) Secondly, I don't understand why you think it is so horrible to blame the social democrats for the victory of fascism. To quote Trotsky: "The misfortune consists precisely of the fact that the leaders of the German Communist Party have placed themselves on the same ground as the Social Democracy, only with inverted prefixes: the Social Democracy votes for Bruening [Bourgeois leader], recognizing him as the lesser evil. The Communists on the other hand .... recognize in Hitler the lesser evil." (From "For a Workers' United Front Against Fascism" - more specifically it refers to the infamous "Red Referendum" in Preussen where the KPD supported Hitler against the Social Democrats.) The reason why Trotsky directed most of his attacks on the KPD and not the SPD was that he at that time still had hopes that the KPD could be won for revolutionary politics in general, and at least specifically for a united front with the Social Democrats against the Nazis. It took Hitlers eventual victory to convince him that this was not the case. More generally I think that it is exactly the shortcomings of reformist politics which breeds fascism. When workers loose their illusions in reformist politics they often look for more militant solutions. In the absence of a strong revolutionary socialist alternative for some workers fascism or militant nationalism can seem be to a way forward. And maybe worse: By disarming the working class Social Democracy tells the petty bourgeoisie and the lumpen proletariat that they should not expect any help from the workers against the capitalist class. And then why shouldn't they join fascists who claim to maintain exactly their interests. It was no coincidence that Le Pen's Front National started to grow short after Mitterand had made it clear, that his election for president in 1979 in no way meant better conditions for workers. So I think Social Democracy is very much to blame for Hitlers victory - they lay much of the ground for it. The Stalinists are also to blame - for not fighting for a workers' united front, which was the only way to beat Hitler. Trotsky had this wonderful little story, which I think explains this (you probably have heard it many times before, but I can't resist quoting it): "A cattle dealer once drove some bulls to the slaughterhouse. And the butcher came nigh with his sharp knife. "Let us close ranks and jack up this executioner on our horns", suggested one of the bulls. "If you please, in what way is the butcher any worse than the dealer who drove us hither with his cudgel?", replied the bulls who had received their political education in Manuilsky's institute. "But we shall be able to attend to the dealer as well afterwards!" "Nothing doing", replied the bulls, firm in their principles to the counselor. "You are trying to shield our enemies from the left; you are a social-butcher yourself." And they refused to close ranks." You see: He makes the role of Social Democracy quite clear. Yours Jorn - Jorn Andersen Internationale Socialister Copenhagen, Denmark --- from list marxism-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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