Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 21:34:09 -0600 Subject: Re: Lenin, Zetkin, Marx on sex? PBurns-AT-lmumail.lmu.edu wrote: > Is there a distinctive Marxist/socialist position > on questions of sex? (no double entendre > intended.) I mean as a theoretical, not a > practical, matter? I know there was something of > a custom among many earlier generations of > socialist theorists and activists to denigrate > marriage, and to support "free love" both as a > moral principle and as a personal lifestyle. But > did that have any solid basis in Marxist or more > broadly socialist principles, or was it done > simply "epater la bourgeoisie", with no necessary > connection to socialism as such? Hi Peter, good to see you on m2.... Things have been a little dull over here although, compared with The End Times on m1, it's sort of a relief. There are at least two currents of Marxist thought on that were at one time a big deal, both of which now seem to greater or lesser degrees discredited. I don't know an awfully lot about these, or about others that are probably out there, but I thought I would sketch out a few things for the sake of discussion. One thread, going back to the roots, involves anthropological works mostly associated with Engels, notably "The Origin of the Family, Private Property and the State." Crudely, this involved the idea that sex, as instantiated in formalized "marriage" and "the family," was a type of property relation. This was based on a somewhat speculative interpretation of the first wave of "scientific" ethnography, most notably the work of Lewis Henry Morgan. "Origin" reads a little strangely today, although it's not uninteresting. Marx also did some ethnographic interpretations, unpublished in his lifetime, about which I should know something, since my esteemed advisor, David N. Smith, just finished editing a collection of them. But I was unable to attend the one public talk he's given recently on the subject, and am kind of in the dark. These views of pre-capitalist property aspects of sex seem at least somewhat separate from the more common depiction of sexual and family relations as dominated and deformed by class structure: Engels on the familial degradation of "the Working Class in England," and big chunks of Marx, including, one would think, those parts of the Paris Manuscripts in which "the most human functions become animal, and the most animal, human" or however it goes. (Which is surely Marx at his most Catholic....) I have a sense, not well formed nor well *in*formed, that these lines of thought were washed out in the early 20th century by Malinowskian anthropology and its successors, and by Freudian psychology, both of which made the Engels-Marx viewpoints seem naive. I was wondering if there was a Marxist take on, say, sexual technique, sexual practices, sexual positions, etc., when I remembered *Reich*, which brings up the whole second current of Freudian-influenced Frankfurtishness. So far as Reich is concerned, besides _The Function of the Orgasm_ and his later (even crazier) works [check out _Listen, Little Man!_, recently re-issued along with a lot of other Reich material by Farrar, Straus, and Giroux's Noonday Press], there's a book of his early essays called _Sex-Pol_ (Vintage, 1972, probably out of print), >from his days as a Frankfurt School semi-insider. (A lot of Marcuse, Fromm, etc., had an explicit sexual dimension, too.) Bertell Ollman's introduction to _Sex-Pol_ attempts to knit together the "anthropological" thread I mentioned above with the Reichian currents, and along the way comes up with more Marx-Engels sexual references. People interested in this topic would benefit from this introduction, even if they don't want to dig too deeply into Reich. Reich, of course, flipped out, discovering along the way that even paranoids have real enemies, and Marcuse and Fromm became so psychologistic in the '50s and '60s (to the point where you could buy _The Art of Loving_ in airport gift shops in 1968, next to _Letters to Karen_ and similar weak-kneed self-help). It's too bad this stuff is in relative eclipse, such that people think Frankfurt School and Critical Theory are Adorno and Horkheimer being old Mandarins, Habermas doing a neo-Kantian number, etc. These guys were a *lot* better back when they were *Communists.* (I even like Reich in rave mode. _Listen, Little Man!_ with the William Steig illustrations is great stuff, even though, at heart, it boils down to a kind of atomistic self-emancipation of the sort Marx skewered in _The German Ideology_.) Kit Gunn, Univ. of Kansas Christopher Gunn Molecular Graphics and Modeling Laboratory 1k1mgm-AT-kuhub.cc.ukans.edu University of Kansas Phone: 913-864-4428 or -4495 Malott Hall Lawrence, KS 66045 --- from list marxism2-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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