Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 17:08:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Splits in the working class Adam thinks that because it is in the long range and universal class interests of men, whites, firstw orld workers, etc. to unite with women, Blacks, and third world workers that there is no contradiction at all between any of their interests. He notes that if the bosses can use dividea nd conquer everyone loses. Women don't get abortion rights, while first world male workers don't get higher wages, etc. Quite right. But this is just to say that what we have is a prisoner's dilemma. If each does what it is individually as opposed to collectively rational for him or her to do, everyone ends up worse off. But here's the point: it _is_ individually rational for everyone to look out for him or herself or his or her narrow group. These interests are real. To see this, look at the prisoner's dilemma again. Suppose women support male worker's demands for higher wages, taking time awy from their pro-choice struggles to do so. The rational thing for the male workers to do is to accept the help but not to reciprocate by taking time away from their own struggles. That way they get the benefit without the cost. And vice versa. So, the rational thing for both is foe neither to help. Of course this is collectively irrational. But it is individuallly rational. That's in partr why cross-0group class unity is so hard. Sure there is a lot of sexiusm and racism among the while male workers and a lot of class prejudice (and racis,) among mifddle class feminists. But underlying the irrational and prejudicial reasons for lack of cooperation is the real clash of shoirt term interests. That's a main reason that this problem is so intractable. To defeat it, we need either to change people's motivations, making them care about the payoff to other sub-class groups (or individuals in their class) or change the payoff matrix, making it rational for people to act collectively in a class-universal way. Both of these are very hard to do. Adam's view ids defective because it overstates how easily such changes will be. For him. all we have to do is get rid of mistaken ideas and prejudices. (Not that that's so easy.) What the RCT approach urged here suggests is that one reason it's hard is that these are based in part on real interests and moreover that even if these prejudices are cleared away there will remain the real short term and parial conflicts of intereswts. It is not an answer to this to say,as Adam does, that acting on short term, partial, individually rational motivations produces sub=optimal results. That's a theorem of course, it's the Prisoner's Dilemma. The reason the PD is so hard is that it's ratiuonal to act in away that produces suboptimal results. For those who do not know the terminology, the PD is a central threoem of game theory. It;s so called because we make the point by telling the following story. A and B are prisoner, held by the cops, seperately and with no means to communicate. Moreover theyw ill have further contact, so their decision herew ill not affect their future interactions. Thgey are individually rational, wanting what's best for themselves and not caring about what happensto the other guy unless that affects them. They each want to spend thre least amount of time in jail. The situatoon is that the cops have enough evidence to pin a lesser offense (1 year in jail) on both of them, but with the testiminy of the other they can pin a greater offense (3 years in jail) on the one being testified against. If one testifies and the other doesn't, they will let the guy whoi rats off (0 years in jail) and slam the other. If both testify they will give each 2 years in jail. What to do? Here's the matrix: A doesn't rat A does rat B doesn't rat Both: 1 year A goes free, best 2nd best for both B gets 3 years, worst B does rat B goes free, best Both, 2 years A gets 3 yrs, worst 3rd best for both So what to do? A thinks, either B rats of he doesn't. If B doen't rat. If B doesn'r rat I certainly should, because then I go free, whereas if we both keep our mouths shut we both get 1 year, our second best, and more importantly my second best outcome, and the otherway I gewt my best. If B does rat then I also should, because if I don't I get my worst outcome, whereas if I do I get my third best. So I should rat in any case. B of course thinks the same way, so we end up in cell 4, both ratting. Some important differences between this game and the intra-class conflict games. First, in many cases the the latter the parties can communicate and will have further contacts. This won't be their ownly interaction. Second, there are more than two players. Third, the payoff matrix is a lot more complicated. That means we cannot transpose the PD directly to the real life context. But it doers indicatea structural tendency that helps explain why the intra-class conflicts of interests are so persistant and so difficult. --Justin --- from list marxism2-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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