Date: Wed, 10 Apr 96 09:59:02 GMT
Subject: Re: CFV: soc.politics.marxism moderated



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From: gt0670e-AT-prism.gatech.edu (Brennan Price)
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Subject: CFV: soc.politics.marxism moderated
Date: 8 Apr 1996 19:22:43 -0000
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                     FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                 moderated group soc.politics.marxism

Newsgroups line:
soc.politics.marxism	Karl Marx and his legacy in theory and practice. (Moderated)

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 29 Apr 1996.

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  Questions about
the proposal should be directed to the proponent.

Proponent: Per I Mathisen <perim-AT-interlink.no>
Votetaker: Brennan Price <gt0670e-AT-prism.gatech.edu>


OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV

The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the UseNet newsgroups to
which it is posted including news.announce.newgroups and the votetaker.  An
official copy will also be sent to the Marxism mail list after it is posted
in news.announce.newgroups.  Contact majordomo-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu if
you want information about the list.


RATIONALE: soc.politics.marxism

There is currently no newsgroup dedicated to the discussion of Marxist
philosophy and politics. Such debate has long taken place in the "Marxism"
mailing list and occasionally on the newsgroup
alt.politics.socialism.trotsky. The "Marxism" list has currently well over
300 subscribers and carries about 30-50 posts a day. The above-mentioned
newsgroup carries about 10-20 posts a day and is no place for serious
discussion since it is haunted by irrelevant crossposts, off-topic
conversations and extensive flaming. Neither are moderated.

The reason the "Marxism" mailing list is insufficient is because many feel
30-40, often quite long, mails dropping into one's mailbox is too much, and
would prefer the quicker alternative of browsing a newsgroup. A newsgroup is
also more accessible for newcomers.

The soc.politics.* hierarchy was chosen because it fits well with our
intention of a newsgroup for discussion about marxism as political,
sociological and historical theory and as a means of changing the world.


CHARTER: soc.politics.marxism

This group is intended as a moderated forum for the discussion of marxism
and political topics in connection to marxism. This includes, but is not
restricted to, the political and philosophical theories of Marx, the
relevance and appliance of Marx's theories in the modern world and the
theories and activities of Marxist political movements and parties both
today and in the past.

Moderation Policy:

The moderators reserve the right to reject any articles submitted to
soc.politics.marxism that are insulting, using more than 1/4 quotation,
off-topic or not at all related to marxism. Crossposts will not be
tolerated unless it is an announcement of relevance or importance to the
newsgroup.

END CHARTER.


MODERATOR INFO: soc.politics.marxism

Moderator: Per I Mathisen <perim-AT-interlink.no>
Contact address: marxism-request-AT-stud.unit.no
Submission address: marxism-AT-stud.unit.no

The RFD stated that Chris Faatz <cfaatz-AT-teleport.com> would be the moderator
for this newsgroup. He decided that this work would be too time-consuming
for him, and therefore had to pass the responsibility to somebody else. For
the time being, this responsibility has been taken by proponent of the
newsgroup.

END MODERATOR INFO.


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NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it.  If you don't want
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Then mail the ballot to:    gt0670e-AT-prism.gatech.edu
Just replying to this message should work.

Quick voting checklist:
1) Fill in the ballot form shown below.
2) Delete the rest of the CFV from your reply.
3) Make sure your reply goes to gt0670e-AT-prism.gatech.edu.

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Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote.

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voter to the votetaker.)

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operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the violator.

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commits voting fraud.  While distributing an unmodified CFV is allowed, it
is strongly discouraged, as the process of redistribution often adds headers
to the document that confuse the vote-taking software.  Reference to the
official CFV in news.announce.newgroups or to a copy mailed directly from
the votetaker is preferred.

When in doubt, ask the votetaker.

--Brennan T. Price, UVV
  Running UseVote 3.0




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