Date: Tue, 30 Apr 1996 18:11:48 -0400 Subject: Unproductive labor I am inclined to agree with Justin on this question. I always found it "unproductive labor" on my part to devote a great deal of effort to deciphering what seem to be elaborate taxonomies of productive and unproductive labor which have little conceptual utility other than the rescue of a dubious concept. I can't see what practical conclusion of any value follows from the fact that a janitor in a General Motors plant is a productive worker, based on the nature of the work done in that setting, but that that a janitor in say a public relations firm or the Stock Exchange is unproductive. The arguments I have heard that they will have a different consciousness, with the one being working class and the other something else, seem at best convoluted tautologies based on the highly questionable premise that a certain type of labor (productive, however it is defined) produces a certain type of consciousness. Moreover, in my own thinking and organizing with teachers, I have found the distinction completely without analytical insight. I am a skeptic of the first order on this issue. Leo --- from list marxism2-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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