Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 05:54:16 -0500 Subject: Schrodinger's Cat Actually, Barkley, the reason I haven't replied is that it took me a hell of a long time to find any account of this experiment. I finally tracked down the location of an actual article about it (the May 24th issue of Science, if anyone's interested), but I haven't been able to find that. What I have read was two short, unclear accounts, I imagine much like those in the NYT (all the news printed in a fit) or Washington Post except undoubtedly less idiotic. Here goes, Ralph. I'm not sure you'll find this very satisfactory, but sometimes life just sucks. What has been done is that a beryllium ion was trapped and supercooled (i.e., its velocity was reduced to near zero) by some stationary electric fields and a bunch of laser beams. It was placed in a superposition of two different electronic states (i.e., states of vibration of the remaining electrons about the nucleus) by said beams . One account said they were coherent states (a very special kind of state). Then they "jiggled" the laser beams in the right way so as to "separate" the states. What does this mean? Each of the states in question is centered around some particular point in space. To put it very simply, since the two states have different properties, they respond differently to the new set of laser beams, i.e. as they evolve in time their centers may travel at different speeds. By the principle of linearity, the result of the system on the sum of the two states is the sum of the results on the two states independently. Thus, the two states can get separated. Furthermore, the separation was extended to 80 nm, which is far larger than the ion in question, so basically the wave function of the ion had two fairly sharply separated peaks. Then, according to the accounts I read, the ions were brought back together by using a different configuration of lasers and "the researchers detected interference patterns which provided evidence of the original separation." Unfortunately, I don't know how they produced said interference patterns. First of all, what does the experiment mean? Well, the business about an atom "being in two places at the same time" is kind of silly. Any wavefunction that describes an atom, unless it's a very restricted kind called a position eigenfunction, will give you nonzero probabilities of the atom's being in various different places. All the statement means is that the magnitude of the wavefunction had two noticeable peaks instead of 1, 3, 4, whatever. The wavefunction produced was the best quantum approximation to such a classical picture (coherent states being considered to be somewhat more like classical states than other quantum states for reasons that I won't go into), but it's still not the same thing. The fact that an interference pattern was produced when the states were brought back together means that, since no measurement was performed, the atom never knew which state it "was in." This is exactly what one would expect from the fact that no measurement was made of the atom's position. The experiment tells us absolutely nothing new. It's simply a confirmation of standard quantum mechanics. It does seem to be very ingenious and a fine new test of the fundamentals of QM, which have of course already been tested six millions ways from Sunday. I would probably never have thought of separating the two states like that, which may be why I'm not an experimentalist. So reality is as screwy as we knew all along. However, this most emphatically does not mean that Schrodinger's cat is out of the bag. The example of the cat was intended to be a reductio ad absurdum. After all, we know that in the macroscopic realm the ordinary epistemology we grew up with works just fine. This means that in the macroscopic limit, at the very least, an object must be in a superposition of very nearby states, unlike the ion in the experiment. Thus, if it were true that quantum mechanics required the cat (or the whole black box for that matter) in the experiment to be in a superposition of two macroscopically different states it would mean that QM was just plain wrong. This point, unfortunately, is not very widely appreciated. Note that I am not saying that QM can have no macroscopic differences from classical physics, another common but nonsensical view -- to take a basic example, classical physics predicts that atoms are massively unstable to electromagnetic decay, whereas QM and our experience tells us that the form of matter we know is fairly stable. On the other hand, the reason QM seems so strange to us is that we know if you throw a baseball at a wall that has another wall in front with two holes cut in it and the baseball hits the back wall, then it has definitely gone through one of the two holes, no matter what -- on the other hand, this is not true of an electron unless you hit it with something to determine which hole it went through. Not only does every physicist know that the particular effects involved in the SC experiment wash out in macroscopic objects, I believe there are arguments that have been given to that effect. I've never gone through any, and I don't know if they're rigorous or not. One caution, Ralph. I know there's been a lot of mystical bullshit printed about QM, some of it unfortunately by physicists, but it's still true that quantum reality is very different from classical reality. We still don't understand exactly what constitutes a measurement, i.e. what will collapse the wavefunction, and it seems that any naive notion will be wrong. The idea that some people got that there's some involvement of consciousness in a measurement seems totally nonsensical to me, and in fact derived from a silly essentialist interpretation of Heisenberg's original use of the term "observer." Why a cat or a rock shouldn't be as good an observer as a human being is beyond me. In any case, I think the question of the observer is misleading and should be ignored. The real question is what constitutes an observation, and I see no a priori reason that an observation implies an observer of any kind. This question is unfortunately not addressed by, e.g., the Copenhagen interpretation. We do know, however, that classical determinism is just not good enough, and we are sure as we can be (but not completely) that the statistical formulation is not an artifact of ignorance, as Einstein thought. That view is simply not tenable any more. As we go to deeper levels, our epistemology may have to be revised further, but there's just no way it's going to nicely come back to what it was. This is my opinion, but I couldn't really explain my reasons to you -- certainly, there are physicists who think differently. The idea that reality must have the same kind of structure in the small as that we observe around us, never particularly warranted, has been completely exploded. Rahul --- from list marxism2-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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