Date: Mon, 29 Jul 1996 12:43:44 +0000
Subject: Re: censorship


Chris: I thank you for your response.I have not yet seen this
message of Louis'. Yet you have. I assume Louis sent it to the
marxism list. This is just what I am talking about concerning
censorship. These people could be censoring other mail which we no
nothing about. Had you not referred to this message of Louis'. I
would not even know he ever sent it.

If this is not a serious infringement on freedom of expression 
nothing is. This, in my view, is clear proof that these people have 
censored both my mail and Louis Proyect's and possibly others.


> Karl,
> 
> I sympathise with your frustration and the bafflement that comes
> across. I don't think our paths or our swords have crossed before,
> so perhaps I can make these comments, which may or may not 
> engage.
> 
> 1) I think Louis in his usual pungent way (thanks for the 
> therapy BTW Lou) has a point when he implies: do you really
> want to be on that l'st?
>  
> What was your motivation?
> 
> 2) Having the right to post is not the right to be read. No one
> has to read anything we write. If you do not write in a way
> that leads someone to want to engage with you, you have 
> censored yourself.
> 
> 3) We have an extraordinary opportunity with Spoons which is 
> not necessarily our unquestioned right. Spoons members go on a 
> rota and spend time looking after all the l'sts and 
> sorting out glitches. This is all free. Whether we agree with them
> on everything, it is in our interests to manage our affairs as much
> ourselves as possible. 
> 
> 4) Rather than analysing it as an abstract inviolable human 
> right that you should be able to post to the Foucault l'st, could you 
> explain what the realistic aims of marxist participation on that l'st 
> would include? 
> That way, even if there is a standoff now, perhaps your aims
> can be pursued in the future in some other way.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Chris Burford
> 
> 
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                              Yours etc.,
                                         Karl 


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