Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 22:40:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Justin Schwartz <jschwart-AT-freenet.columbus.oh.us> Subject: Re: dialectics I have been keeping out of this, but I thought I'd put in my two cents. Dialectics is not one thing. Hegel's dialectics is not Aristotle's, Aristotle's is not Plato's, Plato's is not Marx's, etc. You cannot determine what these various thinkers have meant by dialectics without detailed study of what they said about it, a study which cannot elidethe differences aming them. Least of all can you derive what something that might be dialectics is from a half-baked etymology of the Greek, which as fara s I know, none of us know. Greek that is. Asto whether dialectics is a "logic," it's not on any of the sensenes which the term "logic: has been used, mainly referring to theories of the formal relations between propositions understood from a purely synatical point of view (that is, apart from the meaning of any of the propositions or their constituent terms) in virtue of which some propositions imply others, i.e., the study of valid arguments as such. Whether or not some form or other of dialectics admits of two, three, or many truth values (i.e., true, false, neither, who knows what) for propositions may be an interesting issue, but even if some dialectics (say Hegel's) has a view about that, that does not make Hegel's dialectivs a three valued logic in the sense that, say, Brouwer's is, --Justin On Tue, 16 Jul 1996 ROSSERJB-AT-jmu.edu wrote: > I "second" Jukka Laari's remarks with one further > addendum. The "dia" most definitely refers to "two." > A "dialogue" is between exactly two parties (in Plato's > dialectical dialogues presenting opposing positions). > When one party is speaking it is a "monologue." > If dialectics is not a "two-valued logic" then what > is it? A many valued logic? A fuzzy valued logic? A > no value logic? Not a logic? > Barkley Rosser, (elementary school, my dear Watson, :-)) > > > --- from list marxism2-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- --- from list marxism2-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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