Date: 02 Sep 96 03:01:10 EDT Subject: Re: MARXISM & RELIGION On Jesuits, see Trotsky's "Their Morals and Ours" (hard to get these days but absolutely indispensable. Some pacifist accused the bolsheviks of being like Jesuits. Trotsky replied that at least jesuits fought for their class and had more life in them than the shopkeepers and accountants who stayed at home. The only point of similarity between jesuits and bolsheviks is the confidence and enthusiasm for their class. But bolsheviks are for the universal class, the one which is now the biggest in the world and the only one which can dethrone profit. As for the question of catholicism being progressive.... I think it's a bit shallow to suppose that the different uprisings (Spain 1936 Portugal 1974 Poland 1980 Chile 1973) which have happened in "catholic" countries happened there because the countries were catholic. The other thing they have in common is being countries not in the very centre of capital accumulation. John Mullen SI France --- from list marxism2-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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