Date: Fri, 09 Aug 1996 08:38:49 -0600 Subject: SCIENCE-AS-CULTURE Digest - 7 Aug 1996 to 8 Aug 1996 Forwarded Mail received from: Lisa Rogers I thought some of you might find some of this of interest. Lisa Received: from maelstrom.stjohns.edu by maelstrom.stjohns.edu (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 56E4CC26 ; Fri, 9 Aug 1996 0:29:50 -1300 Reply-To: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture <SCIENCE-AS-CULTURE-AT-SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU> Sender: Sci-Cult Science-as-Culture <SCIENCE-AS-CULTURE-AT-SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 22:27:19 -0600 From: Automatic digest processor <SCIENCE-AS-CULTURE-AT-SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU> To: LISTSERV-AT-SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU, SCIENCE-AS-CULTURE-AT-SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU Subject: SCIENCE-AS-CULTURE Digest - 7 Aug 1996 to 8 Aug 1996 There are 2 messages totalling 165 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. YoungGramsciSisyphus 2. More STS links... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 11:31:25 +0200 From: Hobson Sherren <hobson-AT-SESAM.IT> Subject: YoungGramsciSisyphus This is a multi-part message in MIME format. I got the address wrong first try, hope this "forward" facility works OK ... Message-ID: <3209B319.651E-AT-sesam.it> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 1996 11:27:53 +0200 From: Hobson Sherren <hobson-AT-sesam.it> X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b5a (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/715) To: scienc-as-culture-AT-SJUVM.stjohns.edu Subject: YoungGramsciSisyphus What, even the Australians all on holiday?! There's a deafening silence in this part of cyberspace. I, too, am away on holiday after tomorrow, so I hope you'll excuse me if I insist on tugging at a thread that hasn't been picked up: I shall then join the silent majority... I don't know if net etiquette permits this kind of citation, but here goes: My favourite version of Bob Young's point about Darwin's metaphor is the following: > I am arguing that at the heart of science lies metaphor - a concept > usually associated with literature, especially poetry. We think of > science as literal but at its heart lie figures of speech, in this case > the idea that nature selects rather like a breeder or a deity. > > Darwin is not alone in this kind of thinking. On the contrary, he > points out that 'affinity' and other scientific concepts are no more or > less scientific than his. The same thing applies to all basic concepts > in science. The other candidate for Britain's greatest scientist, Isaac > Newton, derived the concept of gravity from gravitas: affinity, natural > selection, gravity - all these are metaphors drawn from ideas of human > nature and projected on to nature as a way of seeing things and > providing a framework for a philosophy of science. Not all such > projections turn out to be so fruitful, but that doesn't set facts > apart from values or literal statements apart from metaphors. The > history of scientific ideas, like the history of other ideas, is a > moving army of metaphors - some more general than others, but > literalness is the enemy of scientific progress. and can be found in CHARLES DARWIN: MAN AND METAPHOR -AT- http://www.shef.ac.uk/uni/academic/N-Q/psysc/staff/rmyoung/papers/paper7.html which seems to have been visited only 14 times since May 30. It was published in Science as Culture 5:71-86, 1989 ... but I gather that not everyone out there is yet a subscriber ... I cite this to explain my interest in the passage from Gramsci,taken >from his Notebook 11: the famous notebooks written in Italian fascist prisons, between 1929 and 1935. The passage I wanted to share with you was written in the context of a critique of N. Bucharin's 1921 Theory of Historical Materialism, which Gramsci probably read in the French version: La theorie du materialisme historique. Manuel populaire de sociologie marxiste. In particular, here, he is writing under the heading "L'immanenza e la filosofia della praxis" (Immanence and the philosophy of praxis, i.e. marxism) - but makes the following general observation, which seems to me central to our discussion of science-as-culture: <<Usually, when a new world view takes over from a previous one, the previous language continues to be used, but it is used metaphorically. The whole of language is a continuous process of metaphors, and the history of semantics is an aspect of the history of culture: language is both a living thing and a museum of fossils of life and past civilizations.>> I recommend reading this whole section, which concludes with the more famous affermation: <<It has been forgotten that in a very common expression [historical materialism] it was necessary to put the accent on the first term "historical" and not on the second, whose origin is metaphysical. The philosophy of praxis is absolute "historicism", the worldliness and absolute earthliness of thought, an absolute humanism of history. It is along this line that the thread of the new world view is to be traced.>> Remembering his earlier emphasis: <<Objective always means "humanly objective", which can correspond exactly to "historically subjective", i.e. objective would mean "universal subjective". Man knows objectively in so far as knowledge is real for all of humankind historically [underlined] unified in a unitary cultural system ...>>, I feel the gramscian view is still very useful to our consideration of scientific facts, theories, values and world views. Coming back to Bob Young's formulation: I note the phrase "all these are metaphors drawn from ideas of human nature and projected on to nature as a way of seeing things and providing a framework for a philosophy of science". The phrase "projected on to" I take to be a useful metaphor which points to a mathematical metaphor for "metaphor". Metaphors - or rather analogies - are like homomorphisms: mathematical mappings, functions. The mathematical terms "mapping" and "function" are themselves clearly metaphorical. Like homomorphisms, metaphors are relations: i.e. you read them 'both ways round' ... homomorphisms are like analogies ... Let's apply Gramsci's and Young's observations to mathematical physics and maths: the language of the universally-subjective "world-out-there" ... As Bob continues to quote Camus, I can't help adding that Sisyphus can probably be heard to sing snatches of 60's and 70's songs like "Still crazy after all these years" and, some way up the slope, "Standing next to a mountain ... chop it down with the edge of my hand ... pick up all the pieces and make an island ...' etc. And happy or not, I think we must imagine him sweating. Ciao a tutti. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 13:29:12 EST From: "Dr. Patrick W. Hamlett, MDS" <hamlett-AT-SOCIAL.CHASS.NCSU.EDU> Subject: More STS links... I have added several new STS-related links to my PSTS NEXUS Home Page: Two links to the Sokal Affair ("The Sokal Affair" & "Alan Sokal Articles"), both of which contain Sokal's original _Social Text_ piece, plus commentaries Two Unabomber links ("Unabom Information Center" & "Unabomber: Tightening the Net"), both of which contain The Manifesto and various commentaries The European Association for the Study of Science & Technology (EASST) The OTA Legacy, with links to all of OTA reports from 1974 - 1995 The EnvironWest Research Database, with scientific, social, & ethical analyses of environmental issues in the western US _Issues in Science & Technologgy_ Home Page, with archives of past articles These sites can be visited from the STS LINKS sub-page on PSTS NEXUS, at the following URL: http://www2.ncsu.edu/ncsu/chass/mds/psts.html I continue to seek URLs for STS syllabi, course materials, etc. Cheers, Hamlett ------------------------------ End of SCIENCE-AS-CULTURE Digest - 7 Aug 1996 to 8 Aug 1996 *********************************************************** --- from list marxism2-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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