Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 23:43:29 +0300 (EET DST)
From: j laari <jlaari-AT-cc.jyu.fi>
Subject: Re: sub*scribers to thaxis?


Well,

I was in hurry when I wrote that. I think I've said ti earlier that
the point of thaxis is to provide space for what we have had here on
m2. In this sense thaxis is for me *simply*...:

> > Logic behind this reasoning is that thaxis simply is continuation of m2.
>
> The people in marx-admin were quite insistent in their statements that
> both m1 and m2 would no longer exist and that m2 called by another name
> could _not_ "simply" be a "continuation" of m2.

Also "logic behind this reasoning..." is my interpretation. People
(including you, Jerry) have expressed very clearly that we should have
a list (like m2) where free, informal, and general (not attached to
few fixed themes) discussion could be continued. When Justin told that
he won't have time to moderate "m-theory" I jumped in with the idea
that what m2 was about was 'theory.' (You never accepted it, instead
you insisted on 'practice.' That's okay. Though for me all talk about
practice is theory.) I believe I understand reasoning behind the idea
that thaxis isn't simply a continuation of m2. Jon's idea of marxism
space means that strictly and conceptually there's no room for
replacements of second phase (m1 & m2) but our conception of what kind
of discussion we favour, I believe, leads to one list very much like
m2. For me it's thaxis. And therefore "continuation" of m2.

I'm going to unsub from m2 soon. I have neither time nor passion for
these eternal discourses on lists, list structures, list definitons,
list politics, list policies... Rather I would read about Moishe
Postone's views, about 'late capitalism' and cultural differentiation
or homogenisation, about 'globalisation' and Marcuse's thesis on one-
dimensionality, about Ken Post's "Regaining Marxism" (anyone heard of
it?), and I'm very much interested in question of subject(ivity) in
present global situation when 'trad. enemy' (USSR bloc) ceased to be
and new enemies are eagerly imagined; fundamentalist islam, greens and
other eco-terrorists... - what na dhow this all will affect on social
orders around the world?

Jukka



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