File spoon-archives/marxism2.archive/marxism2_1996/96-10-21.210, message 27


Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 10:55:45 -0600
Subject: Re: Long live m2!


Justin Schwartz <jschwart-AT-freenet.columbus.oh.us> wrote:

>The liquidation of m2 is high-handed. M2 didn't only "make sense in light
>of m1": it was the continuation of the old Marxism list before the looms
>took over. I, like many other participants, rather like this community,
>and I'd like it to coninue under some name or other.

I agree 100%.  Forced 'reorganization' seems to be a solution in search of
a problem.  Just what *is* the problem?  I get a sense that the goal is really
the liquidation of m1, and m2 is being sacrificed as a sort of cover.
I wish that the people who are imposing this 'solution' from above
would give some thought to the structural dynamics of listserv lists.
M2 isn't exactly a circle of such wit and wisdom that it will be recalled
20 years from now as one of the seeds of the Revolution, but it's much
better than most of these things.  What's the goal--dead or near-dead
lists, like the Frankfurt one?

I presume the Spoon people *do* understand listserv dynamics, and
know damn good and well that marxism.two.guys.talking.about.roemer
and its kin aren't going to fly.  Am I wrong about the snuffing of m1
as the goal?  Is it something about m2 that's got a stick up somebody's
butt?  If it's merely the unaesthetic nature of the m2 nomenclature,
then Justin's (and others) suggestion for a mere renaming WITH THE
LIST ITSELF INTACT is a good one.

I realize I'm characterizing Marxism in cyberspace as a kind of
delicate flower, unable to withstand transplanting, but, hey--look
around at the present character and this history of what's going on
here.  May we have some facing of reality, please?

Kit Gunn, Univ. of Kansas

Christopher Gunn                Molecular Graphics and Modeling Laboratory
1k1mgm-AT-kuhub.cc.ukans.edu       University of Kansas
Phone: 913-864-4428 or -4495    Malott Hall
                                Lawrence, KS  66045




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