Date: 	Mon, 2 Mar 1998 15:17:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Objectivity and Ideology (fwd)



On Mon, 2 Mar 1998 09:01:39 -0500  Adam van Sertima wrote:

> I think what you're saying, ken, is a kind of priveledging of
> Schopenhauer's view of subjectivity. That is to say, that any 
thing, including 3+3=6 is experienced subjectively.(yes this is 
a radical criticism of human perception)

> Could we define objectivity as constituting on those things 
we agree? example 3apples + 3 oranges=6 pieces of fruit. We 
both agree on that. However, our dispute is over who gets the 
fruit, and which tastes better. The mathematical statement is 
true but trivial, except in the context of the debate surrounding 
ownership and the aesthetics of a snack.
> -Adam

Yes, thanks Adam, I hadn't thought about it exactly in that 
manner.  One of the things I was trying to get across is the 
idea that subjectivity becomes objectivity and objectivity 
subjectivity - a contradiction that stems from the 
irreconciliable differences between reality and thought and 
thought and reality - in effect how both are in excess of one 
another (ie. creative).  The end result, it seems to me, is a 
aporetic approach to method and theory from within the idea of 
method and theory itself.  In this way methodology is formal 
and has formal characteristics but through a close reading of 
such it can be revealed that such consistency is 
relatively arbitrary.... and vice versa.  What is interesting in 
this regard is how creativity, the creativity of action and the 
creativity of thought, present contradictions which actually 
break through the tautological circle and cast the logical 
concepts in a different light.

Thoughts?

ken