Subject: Re: Jouissance Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 12:41:26 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) On Sun, 22 Oct 2000 12:02:08 -0400 OY <oyojonigirl-AT-netzero.net> wrote: > But, in this age of consumer desire what is "my" desire? In other words, aren't we all encouraged to be consumers, to endlessly desire product, and to keep buying product in the insatiable effort to satisfy that desire? So, how do I (if I can) separate "my" desire from manufactured desire (like Chomsky's "Manufactured Consent"?)? I agree with the taking responsibility bit, but how does one make/create that distinction? With consumerism, it isn't so much a question of "my" desire as it is the desire of the Other. By consumerism I mean the ideological enjoyment of shopping whereby shopping / consuming in itself is understood as a "meaning-full" experience. The shift in advertising, around the 1910s I believe, moved from advertising or outlining the details of the product to selecting faults of the consumer (ie. from "contains mint flavouring" to "Do you have stinky breath? Have we got a gum for you!"). I think we can detect here the not-so-subtle shift in emphasis. Consumer goods are marketed so as to fill the "lack" that is constitutive of modern subjectivity - by which I mean the gaps that are manifest *between* subjects: "I stink... which 'the Other' will find repellent, so I'll buy this gum and fix the problem..." There is always the danger, however, that this approach paints consumers merely as dupes, which I strongly think we need to avoid. Rather, this lack, the lack which actually fuels desire, is not so much a dupe as it is inherent to desiring itself. The problem being that in a consumer driven market economy we actually end up identifying directly with the means of exchange (which is reinforced through labour and the means of production). In effect, one does not desire a commodity or consumer good for oneself, but for the Other - which the consumer good is supposed to satiate --> I buy a book for my Library (so my Library can enjoy it or I tape a TV show that I never intend to watch so my VCR can enjoy watching it for me). If we are going to talk about "my desire" this has to do with fantasy - the way in which a subject (uniquely) organizes their enjoyment. So I'd make that distinction: desire is always the desire of the Other, but enjoyment is always *my* enjoyment. In Lacan, this plays out in different ways according to the various philosophical or subjective attitudes (hysteric, obsessional, psychotic, paranoid, and so on). The Lacanian insight here is to recognize that the Ikea duvet does not cover over the lack which is constitutive of both the subject qua subject and the object... and that the promise of wholeness is, in fact, nothing more than a fantasy. In effect: "there is no consumer relationship" - no particular good can 'fix' the subject. As far as I can see, the power of Capitalism has to do directly with its capacity to mimic the way in which we desire - in the form of reproducing itself. Ironically, the logic of Capitalism contains its own seeds of disintegration. The only "real thing" which can satisfy the consumer is "No-thing." In short: if we take consumerism at its word, that products satisfy our desires, then we should buy nothing. > I haven't been but will probably see this film. Though, I absolutely detested "Breaking The waves" and I hear this one is even more provocative in exactly the same way, female sacrifice. I think there is an archived debate about BtW for the M&T list. Zizek's review of BtW can also be found in The Zizek Reader and Chris Brittain has published an article on it (a critical review) which can be found somewhere on the net (google search Brittain and Zizek might work). Of course, my position defends the film (along Zizekian lines) - not in terms of feminine sacrifice - but as revealling and illustrating (and therefore providing a critique of) the psychotic demands of masculinist desire. ken
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